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To make the balance sheet correct at the end of the year do the Creditors control account and Debtors control account opening balances need to be reversed? These two accounts haven't had any other figures put into them through the year though so they both still stand the same but its just should they still be in the suspense account?





-- Edited by Suffolker on Tuesday 13th of October 2009 05:14:53 PM

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Suspense Account should be cleared of any balances at the year end so as Accounts can
be prepared. When you JOURNALED DEBTORS AND CREDITORS ON the system did you
not have Individual Balances of each Sales and purchase Ledger Account reconcilled to the
Debtors and Ledger Control Accounts.


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Hi David Thank you for your reply

The accountant emailed me the following figures:

OpeningP/LBalance Sheet
Debit CreditDebit CreditDebit Credit
££££££
Bank           1,349      2,257
Accounts Receivable                 1     21,685
Tangible Asset       192,537     96,268
Short term Creditors    88,675         96,038
Long Term Creditors  117,469
Share Capital            1                    1
Paid In Capital
Retained Earnings         12,258         24,171
Profit for the year         44,920
Sales       170,339
Cost of Sales      96,269
Rent and Rate            819
Insurance        1,000
Legal and Professional Fee      13,842
Fees and Commission        1,401
Motoring Expenses            134
Repair and Maintenance            827
Equipment            170
Utilities        1,200
General Expenses            195
Interest Expenses        9,511
Bank Charges              50
          206,145     206,145    125,419        170,339    120,210        120,210
              0
Profit      44,920

Everything under 'Opening' appears to be the balances at the end of the previous 2007 year. I used the opening balance button on the Creditors control account and put in the 96,038 and the Debtors Control account 21,685, the same for the bank balance figure and also the 96,238 for the assets.  From the above figures I wasn't 100% sure what else to do. 

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Opening Trial Balance               Debit        Credit

Bank                                         2257

Debtors                                    21685

Fixed Assets                             96268

Trade Creditors                                        96038

Share Capital                                              1.00

Retained Earnings                                    24171




120210     120210                                    


The opening Journal should be similar to the above on the Opening Trial Balance on the
Computer. The Debtors Balance and The Trade Creditors Balance should Reconcile
to a breakdown of Individual Accounts which the Accountant should have details of.
It is obviously no use bringing these individual balance onto the computer now as they
are history. When the Accounts are up to date With a New Opening Trial Balance
You can post the Individual accounts using the Sales Journal Ie Net Vat Gross
T9 for non vat this should balance in total to the gross total in the Debtors Control Account
Use a similar method for the Creditors Control Account. Reverse the Debtors and Creditors
out of Suspense Account and have a word with the Accountant for opening Debtors and
Creditors Individual balance listings. HOPE THIS HELPS IN SOME WAY.


-- Edited by Davey on Wednesday 14th of October 2009 03:39:54 PM

-- Edited by Davey on Wednesday 14th of October 2009 03:41:07 PM

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Thanks David thats great. So this year I should just do a journal with the figures you've listed in the trial balance but next time I should have the individual break down of the creditors and debtors in there too? Which then means the reversal will need doing?

Would the retained earnings be posted to nominal code 3100 Reserves?

Finally will all the above mean the balance sheet will be correct?

Thanks ever so much for your help David this has been stressing me out!

-- Edited by Suffolker on Wednesday 14th of October 2009 05:05:01 PM

-- Edited by Suffolker on Wednesday 14th of October 2009 05:06:42 PM

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I would have word with the Accountant regarding the Balances he has supplied you with
after i studied over the Extended Trial Balance the Profit of 44920 should be a debit balance
in the Profit & Loss Account and not a Credit Balance which is showing in his Figures also
there are no adjustments made to show how the Balance sheet Figures have been arrived at
retained earnings should be a different figure from that shown on the Balance Sheet. ASK
THE ACCOUNTANT TO GIVE YOU MORE OF A COMPLETE PICTURE before making any postings.
The above Opening Trial Balance and Balance sheet may need furter adjustments.



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Thanks for your help David, will have a word with the accountant!

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