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I had a call today from a potential new client looking to outsource their payroll. All employees are based within the UK and ROI. They are now going to employ a worker in Germany. This employee lives and works in Germany but will be paid by this uk company.

Does anyone know how to approach this payroll and how the German government work?
Could this employee declare himself as self employed and pay his own taxes to the German government or can we pay the taxes for him??

Many thanks for reading this.

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I'm not sure that I can help you much but I just wanted to say that getting involved in german taxes can be very complicated. Its not just about payroll but other things are involved too. Its a mine field unless you are experienced in these matters.

I worked for a company that employed a German resident and we ended up using him a a self employed consultant to avoid his tax issues, even then you have to record certain things on your VAT return.

There are accounting firms that specialise with taxes in other countries and these can be helpful as they have local knowledge but obviously they have a charge. I have also used these companies to employ anyone abroad as the legislation is very different to ours.

Others on the forum will probably be able to help, I just wanted to say be careful of what you may be letting yourself in for.

gerry

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121 Employees going abroad
The normal PAYE system applies to all employees of a
UK employer even if the employees are working
abroad for all or part of the time.
When you send an employee to work abroad you
should provide the employee with a letter giving the
following details:
the date the employee went abroad
the gross pay and tax deducted whilst in your
employment for the period from 6 April last to
the date the employee was sent abroad.
Employees who spend most of their time abroad
over a period of a year or more may be able to get
full relief from UK tax on their earnings. You can
make special PAYE arrangements with us in
these cases.
If you have employees on an overseas contract, the
overseas Revenue authorities abroad may get in
touch with you about making foreign deductions
from the employees pay. It is advisable that you
contact the overseas authority on or before the
start of the overseas contract to establish your
obligations in that country. This is because you
are likely to have obligations to both UK and
overseas Revenue authorities.
Although foreign deductions may be due, you must
explain to the overseas authority that you are still
responsible for operating PAYE under UK
arrangements for these employees. Find out
whether, and why, the foreign Revenue authority
wants you to make deductions for them and when
you have this information contact us. We will tell you
what you can do to make things easier for the
employee who will have two lots of deductions
made from their pay.

This is taken from HMRC booklet CWG2(2009) Chapter 4 section 121

Its a very complex arena....

P

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