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How did you do????

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Morning Rob,

thanks for asking matey but as suspected P2 (advanced corporate reporting) is proving to be my nemesis! Did better than expected but still not enough to scrape a pass (I was 2% short!) so unfortunately still not an accountant yet (I couldn't have traded as one but because my Student Training Record is already signed off I could have gone straight to membership rather than becoming an affiliate).

Thinking about it logically of course if I had passed knowing that I don't know enough about group cash flow statements to deserve to pass then I would have passed on a fluke which is no way to achieve ACCA status. (there wasn't a question on group cash flows in December but I was petrified that there would be).

I'm just in the process of digging out all of the study books and evaluating whether they need replacing for 2010.

I think that with all the study and mock exams that I've got to do I'm not going have chance to be on here as much as I have been for the next 112 days cry. I will keep popping in from time to time though even if it's just to ensure that no newbies go and sign up with the wrong supervisory body or the wrong tuition provider.

Anyway, looking on the bright side, at least by failing I've not got to pay for CPD yet!... Don't glass half full sort of people just annoy you!

Talk soon,

Shaun.

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Oh bad luck Shaun, but obviously you have well and truly broken the back on P2 and with only the one paper to do I'm sure you'll fly through it next time...maybe get a prize! Don't be too much of a stranger, you'll need the odd break from studying!

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Cheers for the support Rob.

You seem to have really picked up the batten since you joined he site so glad that I can leave the site adviser role in good hands in my impending absence.

cheers,

Shaun.

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Not sure that I warrant that title...all my accounting ability has been self taught and from experience so although I'm happy to pipe in with 'this is how I do it...' I don't know whether it is the best way or even the absolute correct treatment....so you can't get away that easily my friend!

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Hi Shaun

Sorry to hear about your news - thanks for all your help you have given so far and good luck with the continued studying!!

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Angela

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Shaun

What can I say, absolutely gutted for you.

When can you retake it? As Rob has said, if there is only one paper to concentrate on it will be easier next time?

Bill

PS bet you wont be able to resist contributing just as much as you have always done

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Cheers Bill,

you're right, couldn't resist just logging in to check that no one was teetering on the brink of overpaying for training or assuming that ICB membership was an open door to untold riches.

The retake will be on June the 15th. Just debating with myself whether I should convert to International Financial Reporting Standards for the next sitting?

Probably spend the rest of the day making cunning plans and setting up study timetables before settling back down to proper study tomorrow.

I've sorted the books out and they're on the side of my desk at the moment. Just looking at them is enough to send you screaming into the distance.

Measured the pile and it's an 18cm / 7 inch deep stack of A4 size books.... Oh well, every journey starts with taking a single step and every exam starts with turning the first page... Which I'll do tomorrow!

Talk later,

Shaun.

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Really sorry to hear about your disappointment, Shaun.

I already owe you loads for your help on here and although I doubt I can tell you anything you don't know about accounting, I will undertake to pray to a deity of your choice if that will help

Seriously, though, good luck with your re-jigged study. looks like we'll both be sitting exams in June.

Neil

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Luckily for us mortals, there will always be someone teetering on the edge of uninformity, so I guess you will still have to log in every day and you still wont be able to resist answering any question that arises.

Bill

PS On Neils theme of dieties, the patron saint of Bookkeepers & Accountants is St Matthew, perhaps we should all get an amulet or medalion made up to protect us!!!

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Hi Shanu,

I hope yu will get it right this june. Same happened here, I am getting ready for June exams. My P1 result was not favourable. 

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Hi Lawason,

Sorry to hear of another of us disappointed this morning.

P1 is a real lottery of a paper as you never know what's going to come up in it and it's also a real waffley one.

I failed P1 first time but then realised from the syllabus's that P1 and P3 are actually a matching pair and all the bits that they seem to want that are missing from the P1 study material are actually in the P3 study material.

With those two papers it really is better doing the study from revising past papers combined with the Kaplan and BPP exam kits.

If you've not done it yet when you resit P1 also sit P3 and you will pass them both... P5 is also linked but if you sit that then you would have to drop either P6 or P7 as an option paper and those are the two really important one's if you want to be an accountant in practice.

I know that you know all the papers Lawason but for anyone else reading this the papers that we are talking about are :

P1 : Professional Accountant
P2 : Advanced Corporate Reporting
P3 : Business Analysis
P5 : Performance Management
P6 : Advanced Taxation
P7 : Advanced Audit and Assurance

Kind regards,

Shaun.

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Sorry you didn't pass Shaun I'm sure you will next time your knowledge far exceeds anyone else's on here. Don't be a stranger. Oh and I can have that shower tonight!!!!!!

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Cheers Sheila,

Sure that it's just that I've been answering the messages before anyone else gets a look in though.

I'll still be dropping in but I must try to not have the forum on in the background all of the time for the next four months!

So you got the all clear. Excellent news. Any advance on getting compensation for your injury?

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Hi Shanu,

You are a star, your comments has motivated me to start studying now. I have a look at the P3 syllabus this afternoon,is almost same as P1, I will do both in June and probably with P2 because I have started studying for P2 since January. But can you tell me the best options to chose from the 4 when am to do the options.

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So you got the all clear. Excellent news. Any advance on getting compensation for your injury?

Got a letter from solicitor 10 Feb saying they had put claim in and the defendant had 21 days to acknowledge claim and pass to their insurers who then have 3 months to investigate the matter.  I've sent photos of the wounds taken at 3 weeks and she's asked to take more.  So we shall see.


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Hi Lawason.

Nice to know my words are motivating you.

for the options it all depends on what you want from the qualification.

P4 and P5 would suggest that you are working in the corporate sector.

P6 and P7 would suggest practice.

P7 is a written rather than calculation paper but it's very difficult to get a pass score as the examiners for that paper are strict to the point of draconian.

This makes sense as if your going to get sued for significant sums then it will be in Audit. However, unless you pass P7 you will never be able to get an audit practice licence!

Despite with P7 you also needing to memorise all of the accounting standards, abstracts and practice notes it is very closely tied to P2 and it helps if you take those two at the same sitting (I would say P7 is closer to P2 than to F8!).

P6 is the odd one out as that only relates back to the other Tax paper F6. It's also a real swine as unlike the others at this level you only have two sitting (June and December of the same year) to use the study materials and then they're defunct when the next finance act comes in!

If you have no interest in tax then P5 is closely linked to P1 and P3 but with more emphasis on management accountancy type calculations rather than the theory of the other two papers.

P6 does however give you entry (and one exemption) to study for CTA as your CPD without having to do ATT first.

So, in short my professional stage (in matched groups where applicable) is :

P1 & P3
P2 & P7
P6

If you don't want to do advanced tax then I would suggest (again matching linked papers) :

P1 & P3 & P5
P2 & P7

Have you done any mocks for P2 yet? Don't underestimate how hard and how time pressured that one is! You really need to be able to incorporate an associate undertaking and a subsidiary without having to think about the calculations as there doesn't physically seem enough time to calculate all of the numbers in the 1.5 hours it should take to do question 1.

When you go into the exam hall you also need to know when you open the paper you would be just as able to answer question 1 whether it required creation of a group balance sheet or a group cashflow statement (which is where at the last sitting I was not well enough prepared and I feel that my pre exam nerves may have been reflected in my result).

Just a suggestion but you might want to hold off on P2 till December and do it with P7.... Are you doing UK or International reporting standards by the way? If UK then I think that there are only a few sitting remaining before the ACCA drop that stream due to the convergence with IFRS.

If your determined to sit P2 this June try and sit one mock under exam conditions per week for the six weeks prior to the exam.

Hope that the above helps in deciding your options.

Kind regards,

Shaun.



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Hi Shaun,

Sorry to hear you didn't pass, it is hard to study, work and juggle kids all at the same time, but keep going I'm sure you will pass the next time.
I'm sure you will still be on hear giving good advise as always.

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Cheers Amanda,

as proven this morning, just can't keep away from our merry little community.

Think that it's one of the main commonalities on this site that so many of us are in the same boat. i.e. work / study / children... Sorry, hate the word kids. Always brought up being told that "Children are young humans, Kids are young goats".

I'll endeavor to keep the advice and humour flowing during my studies but suspect that I'll have to slow down somewhat from the 400 messages that were posted in my first month on the site!

Talk soon,

Shaun.


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Hi Shaun,

I always get really nervous just before the exam and take loads of sweets in with me, I normally eat them all in the first half an hour, then I'm alright after that.
At least you know you are not alone atudying, I'm thinking about doing some at the end of the week, got a really busy beginning of this week.

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Hi Shanu,

Thanks for your response. I will think about the combination and make the right choices. I am doing international streams. And, getting practicing certificates includes doing Tax and Audit, what of if I take options of Advance financial mangement and Advance performance management will I get practising certificate?

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Hi Lawason.

Unless you take advanced Audit (P7) you will not get an audit practicing certificate.

The other type of practicing certificate (without audit) will be available to you when you have done two years post qualification, supervised.

If you do not get P6 you may find CTA (Certified Tax Advisor) a difficult option for CPD but it will still be open to you.

So, short answer. For what you want to do P7 is essential, P6 is a nice to have as it gives you a firm grounding in tax, but, you can live without it if you would prefer to do P5 for now then do all of your tax studies as CPD.

Just to reemphasise. If you don't do P7 you cannot have an audit practice licence.

Hope that helps,

Shaun.

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Sorry to hear your news Shaun, my friend has just passed this (7th sitting), its not easy..

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Cheers Lisa,

glad to know that at least someone passed it though!

I really don't fancy doing it seven times. For starters at current rate that's £567 in exam fee's alone!!!

Shaun.


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