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I have a client who runs a clinic from her home. 

She has replaced some windows although not for the clinic.  I beleive they were for her kitchen.

My initaial thought would be that they are not allowable but the query is that you have to walk past her kitchen to get to the clinic.

Any comments would be appreciated.  Thanks



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Not allowable, your client will have her whole house and garden done up soon and will want it to be an allowable deduction. Tell her about the 'wholly and exclusively' rule and I'm sure she will understand.

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The question I would ask would be, do the old windows deter potential and current customers/clients and do the new ones maintain the client base and create more clients? or did it not really matter what the kitchen windows looked like she would of been able to carry on as normal regardless?

Personally I think it's a bit cheeky, but then I've also been recently surprised at what you can actually get away with. Afriend of a friend recently got a whole new kitchen because it creates recipes for his food shop in there and that was allowed.

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Hi Steve,

was it a normal domestic kitchen or a more commercial, all stainless steel one? Who allowed it, the accountant or hmrc?

Also these apocryphal accounts are not always as they seem, hence the clients whose mate down the pub reckons......

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RobH wrote:

Hi Steve,

was it a normal domestic kitchen or a more commercial, all stainless steel one? Who allowed it, the accountant or hmrc?

Also these apocryphal accounts are not always as they seem, hence the clients whose mate down the pub reckons......

Rob



Hi Rob

It was a standard kitchen in his home, his reasoning or the accountants reasoning to hmrc was that he used it too create new recipes for his shop.

A few people were surprised.

It's someone I know so it's not quite a mate from the pub who knows a mate it's the woman I work for, her mate, which is why she brought it up because she wants one now. smile

Personally I didn't think it would be possible but then as ever I am often surprised.

 



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Every once in a while there's a post on here that cracks me up. This one wins for today (it was the makeup one yesterday).

Maybe they're also thinking of putting hanging baskets outside as the clients have to walk past those!

As usual Robs spot on. Definitely not allowable.





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Hi Steve,

I think that you're friend just got lucky and sounds as though HMRC just couldn't be bothered with it.

Assuming that the story that you're getting is true I certainly wouldn't take it as the standard HMRC response.

I know that there's now less inspectors and more work and you can bet your bottom dollar that either this hit the guys desk on a Friday afternoon or the inspector just wanted to clear some of the crap quickly to get onto the proper work with some hope of bringing in a decent return on their time.



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Shamus wrote:

Hi Steve,

I think that you're friend just got lucky and sounds as though HMRC just couldn't be bothered with it.

Assuming that the story that you're getting is true I certainly wouldn't take it as the standard HMRC response.

I know that there's now less inspectors and more work and you can bet your bottom dollar that either this hit the guys desk on a Friday afternoon or the inspector just wanted to clear some of the crap quickly to get onto the proper work with some hope of bringing in a decent return on their time.



Hi Shaun

Like I say it not only surprised people it also sounded highly dubious, good on them for getting away with it like but I can't see my boss having the same luck................... you'd be tempted to give it a go though if you were putting a new kitchen in anyway. wink

 



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lucky to claim for a new kitchen, lol! surprising what people try to claim for!
I have had cakes bought for customers, cough medicine...

-- Edited by lor on Thursday 13th of May 2010 11:25:44 AM

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My favourite attempted claim/misplaced receipt was a spurious buzzing device purchased from Anne Summers along with some unusual attire from the same establishment. I made an executive decision not to include them or mention it to the client ( a burly builder!)

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My favourite attempted claim/misplaced receipt was a spurious buzzing device purchased from Anne Summers along with some unusual attire from the same establishment. I made an executive decision not to include them or mention it to the client ( a burly builder!)

Rob



Hmmmmmm I think you made a good choice there Rob, must of changed your perception of him though evileye

 



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Maybe it helps mix the cement?

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RobH wrote:

Maybe it helps mix the cement?



True.......................... it would of had to be one of the bigger ones though biggrin

 



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you clearly have more knowledge of these things than me Steve!

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Indeed I always shop at anne summers for my tooling needs screwfix have nothing on them.

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I only have one client who shoves everything in. I do as Rob if it looks spurious - if it's a cash receipt it goes in the bin if it's cr card or cheque it goes into drawings - in neither case do I tell the client. Sometimes I think clients think we are stupid and won't notice things that are obviously nothing to do with the business.

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RobH wrote:

My favourite attempted claim/misplaced receipt was a spurious buzzing device purchased from Anne Summers along with some unusual attire from the same establishment. I made an executive decision not to include them or mention it to the client ( a burly builder!)

Rob



funny, lol! made me laugh! if you said something to him that would be very embarrassing!

 



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