You need to be consider what the expense if for? It's possible the supplier sells both vatable and non vatable goods.

Assuming it's a vatable expense then providing it's less than £250 you're ok to claim the vat as long as the reg number is quoted.

P.

If you mean is the till reciepts itemised then no they are not.
there is simply a total takeaway figure and total restaurant figure.
I do enter these in as separte items merely for comparsion purposes.

as for the expenses yes i am examine everyone to look at the vat?

Cheers for the answers.

Ronnie

Attil,

I read some of those links, some can be confusing.
The problem the owner has is that his till reciept has not itemised any thing sold, just says Takeaway and figure.
So i presume on that basis i would have to assume that all food was sold hot and charge Vat accordingly?

I say this because to ecsape the vat being charged on the takings he would have to prove he is selling cold foods?

Will maybe suggested he purchases an itemising cash register.

Cheers Ronnie

There can be a case for
'Where you make sales of cold food to be taken away from your premises, but also have on-site facilities where food can be consumed, you will need to apportion your sales of cold food between those consumed on the premises (standard-rated) and those taken-away (zero-rated).

If you are unable to ascertain the correct liability at the point of sale (see 5.6), you must retain satisfactory evidence to support a fair and reasonable apportionment. Records, and the retention of records, are explained in VAT Notice 700 and Notice 700/21 Keeping records and accounts.'

HMRC Notice 709/1

Apart from that most cash registers should be able to separate at least 2 different vat rates.
You most probably would not really need itemised but it can be helpful.
First of all you should make sure if he is selling anything zero rated, if he is not than it is actually straightforward, everything is standard rated, easy calculation.
Make sure you know what must be always standard rated and what can be zero rated if any.
And yes he will have to be able to prove if it is zero rated, well at least to a level if he has not got in his normal trade anything what can be zero rated than he really should not even try to say some of his sales were zero rated.

All those are opinion, if you need advice you really should ring up Customs and ask them, try to get a reference where can you find the info what they say written and if you get answers from them please let me know, I love to confuse myself with normally easy tasks... ;)

Hope it makes sense.

Ah yes the pickled eggs, yes indeed. And don't forget the milkshakes to takeaway!! I've had chip shops, Wimpey's, Starburgers, greasy spoons, the lot!

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Only if they are cold Bill!!

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Bill

Sorry but I hate mushy peas!!!!! Do like lots of salt and vinegar on the fish and chips though!!

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Bit like putting gravy on chips!

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I think its a northern thing, not my cup of tea either!!

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is it a biscuit or a cake lol

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BackOfficeGroup wrote:

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I think its a northern thing, not my cup of tea either!!

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Quite possibly .. Chips and gravy are great but it's got to be proper thick gravy !!

 

I'm hungry!!

Cornish Pasty

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-- Edited by Wella on Monday 18th of October 2010 01:53:39 PM