I don't think you have to like it, as I didn't, but then I haven't voted.
I don't use Twitter but I do like Facebook. Actually using Facebook as more of an email address now as you don't get spam. A lot of the eastern countries the ICB is in the staff there skipped email completely and went straight to Facebook as a type of email system for that same reason.
It is also good to look at old school friends, although that can make you realise you don't look 18 anymore
I think it might be on a downward movement now though, charging people in some countries, and sticking adverts all over the place in others. But for the UK it is still a very good place to share photos and organise events with friends - and it is completely free
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For those of you who remember Kids Say The Funniest Things this is the same idea. The ICB asked bookkeepers to ask their children what they do for a living.
Meh. Publish them on a proper web page on your own website, rather than on a page that I have to "Like" on FarceBook first, and I might look.
Although I do use FarceBook, things like this bug me. Too many organisations hide too much stuff on their pages on the site, meaning people have to click "Like" if they want to see it. I don't want to see anything enough to add one to the "These people have commited themselves as fanboys" statistic - except in those cases where I genuinely am a fanboy, obviously. (Hint: That'll never be for something as exciting as an accounting body!)
(And similarly, I just want to punch the TV screen when an advert comes on and instead of giving the URL of a website, they say "Find us on FarceBook". GRRRRR! Dear idiot companies: Farcebook is not the whole damned internet!)
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I don't use Facebook or Twitter as I'm still not really seeing the point in them.
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You do need to like it, it's been built behind a like gate, no simple task now. Someone has gone to some trouble doing this. You may already like the page James, and if so this is why you'll have bypassed the like gate.
I like facebook too James, I get a lot of work from it too.
"I don't think you have to like it, as I didn't, but then I haven't voted."
You do. I looked - and all I could see was a big banner saying "Bookkeepers explained by their kids. Like us to watch the videos and submit your own."
"I don't use Twitter but I do like Facebook. Actually using Facebook as more of an email address now as you don't get spam. A lot of the eastern countries the ICB is in the staff there skipped email completely and went straight to Facebook as a type of email system for that same reason."
The problem with "using Facebook as more of an email address" can be summed up by my comment above about companies that advertise their Farcebook page instead of their own real website:
(Ooh, I am so annoyed by this I'm going to have to use the Advanced Editor to add some bold to the next line...)
Farcebook is not the whole damned internet.
It's a closed system.
I know they've changed things lately, and users now have an @facebook.com email address (or are starting to have them - I don't know if that's rolled out completely yet), and I believe that means I could send someone on the site an email from my (proper) email client.
But as far as I know, that person wouldn't be able to reply to it because the reply would have to leave the site's chain-link-fenced garden*.
FWIW, I dislike the site's messaging system, and I refuse to use it. Every once in a while, I post a status reminding my friends that if they want to contact me, they can ring me or send me a text message (if they have my number), or email me (if they don't) - adding that although my email address isn't shown on Farcebook, it's not hard to find one for me with Google, and there's also a contact form on one of my websites that I include the link for.
(I've never liked webmail type systems anyway, for day to day use - occasional use to access mail while away from my own computer is another matter - but Farcebook's messaging is very much a poor man's webmail. And it got a whole lot worse when they decided that instant chat and messaging were the same thing!)
"It is also good to look at old school friends, although that can make you realise you don't look 18 anymore biggrin"
Yeah, there is that. :)
"I think it might be on a downward movement now though"
Its share price certainly is :p
*A chain-link-fenced garden rather than a walled garden (which is how people often describe Apple's phone and tablet devices) because a chain-link fence doesn't stop you from seeing what's on the other side.
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Ah yes you do have to like it, something about FB and pages and other stuff ....
However, everyone should like it anyway the summit is a great place to show the world how professional bookkeepers are completely different to the unqualified £7 per hour 'bookkeeper'
There are plenty of fully qualified bookkeepers out there on a lot less than £7 per hour and an awful lot of unqualified ones on more than £7 per hour.
I also know that there are a lot of excellent bookkeepers who have never been academically trained.
The training and qualification seems to me more about providing the proof to be given a chance in the business but for the many who joined it straight from school and were taught on the job by an accountant I would not say that they are worse than someone who has been though a bookkeeping qualification even though from the ICB's perspective they would be unqualified.
I think that all bookkeepers should be properly trained but I'm just saying that a bit of paper alone is not what sets one bookkeeper apart from another.
kind regards,
Shaun.
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That's a pretty poor response. Someone has gone out of their way to like gate this. As I said earlier it's no longer such a simple thing to do. There is no way it's been done by accident, nor is there any reason other than increasing likes to do it. I should know, I employ the same tactics, but I'm honest about the reasons.
@Kris: my hands are tied I'm afraid, not my decision, can't really say anything about whether I agree/disagree....
@Shaun: by unqualified I meant neither paper nor experience, people who think bookkeepers just re-order the receipts or answer the phone.
Almost everytime we get a politician/banker/business leader (and quite often accountants) at the conference or members meeting they comment on how impressed they are with ICB members and how different the role of a bookkeeper is to what they thought before meeting them.
You are right Shaun, when i used to go auditing i used to see bookkeepers who didnt have a clue and were on more than me, and i spent my time correcting their errors whilst they drove around in the fancy car.
Atleast with a qualified bookkeeper you can expect a certain standard, but a unqualified bookkeepers doesnt mean they will be unequivalently poor.
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