I am looking for a new shredder as my current one is absolute rubbish! I know this is not really a bookkeeping question, but I presume all of you shred a lot of paper, so hopefully someone will have some recommendations
I don't want to spend £100's, as its only me in my home office, but I don't want to spend £50, then find it overheats & jams, and need to buy a new one in a years time
Looks as though someones looking at a career as a management consultant (lol, remember the Enron shredding the evidence issue).
Interested in this one myself as mines one of the rubbish ones that you refer to.
Great for a few docs but no good whatsoever for volume work as its like an old British motorbike... You spend more time with it in bits than actually working.
Sorry, not an answer, just acknowledgement that its a useful topic.
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I dont shread a massive amount, maybe 5 pages a day. I use a cheap shreadder I bought 5 years ago from Woolies. I bought it as a stop gap, but as it's worked for me I've yet to replace it. Here is the most similar one I can find, it looks like it's just been redranded: http://www.ryman.co.uk/1227036168/Ryman-Shredder-Cross-Cut-MS-528-ex-display/Product?extcam=agg_gps_prod_feed_pf&istCompanyId=724692e0-2f99-4874-9565-6fc82074fe86&istItemId=xilwqxql&istBid=tzwr
Just remembered Kris, we had a very similar conversation in relation to binding machines as well.
My shredder was an unbranded one from Tesco's that was supposed to shred 10 sheets at a time.... Yer, right. Anymore than 2 and you can hear it starting to struggle.
My added security measure is that I then use the shredded paper as bedding for the rabbits... Can't see anyone wanting to go through that afterwards to try and put a document back together.... Wonder if that means that I can put my sons rabbits on payroll, lol.
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My added security measure is that I then use the shredded paper as bedding for the rabbits... Can't see anyone wanting to go through that afterwards to try and put a document back together.... Wonder if that means that I can put my sons rabbits on payroll, lol.
Haha, good idea! Would it work with chickens? my other half has dreams of the good life That would be the only pet I would get in the near future, a productive one (with a toddler and baby on the way, will have my hands rather full)
My added security measure is that I then use the shredded paper as bedding for the rabbits... Can't see anyone wanting to go through that afterwards to try and put a document back together.... Wonder if that means that I can put my sons rabbits on payroll, lol.
Haha, good idea! Would it work with chickens? my other half has dreams of the good life That would be the only pet I would get in the near future, a productive one (with a toddler and baby on the way, will have my hands rather full)
Young children are also good for disposing of the shreddings.
My son is now too old but when he was much younger my shredding disposal process was turning it into papier mache.
We would get a big piece of 5 ply board. empty the papier mache clay onto it and make battlefields for his toy soldiers. Takes a couple of weeks in the garage to dry then paint them with emulsion and you have one happy child with a really cheap battlefield that will keep them ammused for days.
Not a big fan of chickens as I seem to have no immunity to chicken flea bites... Not great when I was brought up in the countryside and we had hundreds of the damn things... However, if you have to have those evil flea ridden beasties then there's no reason not to use shreddings as bedding for them (bah humbug... Only good chickens come wrapped in cellophane).
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We would get a big piece of 5 ply board. empty the papier mache clay onto it and make battlefields for his toy soldiers. Takes a couple of weeks in the garage to dry then paint them with emulsion and you have one happy child with a really cheap battlefield that will keep them ammused for days.
Reminds me of the Blue Peter Tracey Island - we got the instructions but never did get round to making it!
We would get a big piece of 5 ply board. empty the papier mache clay onto it and make battlefields for his toy soldiers. Takes a couple of weeks in the garage to dry then paint them with emulsion and you have one happy child with a really cheap battlefield that will keep them ammused for days.
Reminds me of the Blue Peter Tracey Island - we got the instructions but never did get round to making it!
That would be because Mattell made one far better (and probably cheaper) than we could.... Very much in an "And here's one that we prepared earlier" fashion.
I'd forgotten that. £20 for Tracy island but then £10 for each of the Thunderbirds.... And the next year they did the same to us again with Marineville / Stingray models.
... This started out as such a serious thread as well... Sorry.
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Just got one from Asda and it was £28, the last one I got from there was £25 and it lasted 3 years so not bad at all. Also I burn some of my paperwork on the log burner in the winter! Does the job nicely.
Back on subject....and to raise a serious point, sorry... lol It depends what you need it for, is it just for shredding your documents/old letters? or is it for client paperwork and shredding of old statements/financial records no longer needed?
If its the former then try staples/viking/euro-office they do cheapish (£20-£40) that are robust enough to last longer than a year and will shredd more than 2 sheets of paper... lol
If its the latter then you really need to pay attention to whats on the packaging/website and looke for the security rating of the shredder. YES it gets quite anal and there are different ratings based of the level of secruity required and nature of business. Try: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_shredder and http://www.abt-shredders.co.uk/Security_Levels.htm (for clearer understanding)
For the latter point i would recommend a level 3 cross cut shedder.
Sorry for being the party popper guys but for people in our trade and being data protection users then you should take this seriously... :D
lol Gary... try gleaning any information from our papier mache battlefields!
I fully agree with the comment in relation to data protection.
My background is banking so security, confidentiality and continuity tend to be at the forefront of everything that I do. If for one moment I felt that there was any risk to a clients data in my means of disposal then I would employ a different method.
The key is that the documents should not be able to be rebuilt from the remnants.
Business with large volumes can justify the additional expense of cross shredders run from document feeders that look like photocopiers.
Little businesses like ours just need to ensure that the shreddings are disposed of properly which could include burning, papier mache, animal bedding, seperating a single bucket of shreddings into different bags for disposal etc.
No matter how it is done there should be no way to rebuild the original documents from the shreddings.
I would not trust a specialist disposal company to get rid of my shreddings but thats just that I need to know that everything has been destroyed properly and you can never know that if you just gave a bag of paperwork to a weekly collection and disposal service.
I can't argue with the two sheets comment. Mine is supposed to do ten but if it was tested with such god knows how they managed to make paper that thin without disintigrating on touch.
kind regards,
Shaun.
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That would be the Vatican employing this shredder to get rid of all of the Gospels that they don't want people to read... Nice to know that even things like the bible are sensored documents. (can just see it now "this bit here says that God appeared to a woman"... "Quick, in the shredder with it")
Oh yes, and the actual wording from the surmon on the mount was "Blessed are the book-keepers".
Right, as you say, a subject best left alone before we end up with groups of women wearing beards and carrying rocks turning up at our doors.
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That just capped my day after Dad came in and (amongst other useful things) said of the local cleric: "the bloody burke was too busy doing his 'Hi Ho Silver Lining' to get up in time for Easter Sunday Mass". Although Dad maybe a bit jaded by his sojourn across the water in the 40s and allowance should be made for the telling.
Just now and again, we need a like button in here.
Which agnostic Gospel has most feminine-goddess-like stuff Shaun? I've only read round and about those things.
Ah, if only the Vatican shredders were not working day and night to ensure that we never know Tim.
I always liked the description of Angels. They look like women, they talk like women, they have long blonde flowing hair... But they're Gods messengers so obviously they must be men. lol.
My first school was patroled by packs of ruler wielding Penguins (high church, not catcholic... like there's a difference) which pretty much makes me totally non religous.
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lol @ angels. Our headmaster would have made a dream Fast Show or Pink Floyd characature. "I'll rattle your knees laddie" and "kneel under a picture". Dunno what he meant by rattling knees but I always think of it if I've forgotten to polish my shoes. lol
lol Tim, got it going through my head now... "You, yes you, stand still laddie" and "How can ya have any puddin if ya don't eat ya meat"... As if the site wasn't destroying my productivity enough now I've got to go and listen to The Wall... With maybe a Dark side of the Moon and Wish you were here chasers.
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That would be the only pet I would get in the near future, a productive one 
(with a toddler and baby on the way, will have my hands rather full)
