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Hi Claire,

As far as I understand the company A wants to recover their expenses on the franking machine and therefore the invoice from A to B should show the postage as exempt of VAT and the rent of the franking machine at the standard rate of VAT.
Why? Because the company A does not pay VAT on postage, and it pays 20% VAT on the rent of the machine.



-- Edited by JulieS on Tuesday 28th of May 2013 11:55:17 PM

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Hi

Im wondering if anyone can help with this.

 

Company A and company B - two seperate identities working from the same address, both seperate limited companies, both registered for VAT.

 

Company A has a franking machine in which top ups for postage are purchased thru pitney bowes all exempt from VAT. The rent of the machine has VAT charged at 20%.

Company B uses said franking machine regularly. Company A invoices Company B for postage used and a part amount of the rent. The invoice to company B for the rent has VAT at 20%. But should the postage invoice?

 

Ive spent quite a while trying to find the answer to this tonight and Im still no clearer.

Would appreciate any of your thoughts on this.

 

Many thanks 

 

Claire



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Julie

Thanks for this. That is exactly what I thought.
However, someone mentioned to me .. that the sales invoice for postage from company A to company B - would be classed as 'secondary postage' like a second charge - and would therefore have to be charged with 20% VAT even tho it is for postage. So its confused me slightly, and I wondered if anyone had come across this before.



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claireb wrote:

Julie

Thanks for this. That is exactly what I thought.
However, someone mentioned to me .. that the sales invoice for postage from company A to company B - would be classed as 'secondary postage' like a second charge - and would therefore have to be charged with 20% VAT even tho it is for postage. So its confused me slightly, and I wondered if anyone had come across this before.


 Hi Claire

I originally thought the same as yourself and Julie.  However in my digging around for various VAT rules what the 'someone' mentioned to you appears to be true.  Take a look at the following link:

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/forms-rates/rates/goods-services.htm#7

In the postage section it refers to VAT Notice 700/24.

My bottom line understanding of it all is that if you resell postage & you're not Royal Mail then you charge VAT.

HTH

Brigitte

 



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Also, if both companys are vat registered, there is nothing lost in charging vat anyway

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Really grateful for your help and info Brigitte & Chris, and Im glad to get to the bottom of this!

Have a nice day

C


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 Hi Claire

I originally thought the same as yourself and Julie.  However in my digging around for various VAT rules what the 'someone' mentioned to you appears to be true.  Take a look at the following link:

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/forms-rates/rates/goods-services.htm#7

In the postage section it refers to VAT Notice 700/24.

My bottom line understanding of it all is that if you resell postage & you're not Royal Mail then you charge VAT.

HTH

Brigitte 


 This is new to me. Thank you! This is exactly why I love this site. There is always someone who has some knowledge to share....



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