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I have a client who does pundit work on the TV via his own Limited Company which is VAT registered.  We invoiced a management/agent company his fee plus VAT and they in turn invoice the Television/media company.  We have received the invoice fee - well all except the VAT element which it turns out the media company havent paid - they are not paying it despite chaser since March and have not given us a reason.    Is this illegal?  A reportable offence to HMRC? or just plain dumb?



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its illegal. They cannot just choose not to pay the VAT.

Your client still owes the outstanding VAT to HMRC regardless as to whether it has been paid by the client. But of course the VAT can be reclaimed against a bad debt which it seems that part of this debt is bad in that only part payment has been received.

Without the VAT payment the amount receieved is deemed VAT inclusive so your client has effectively given a 20% discount.

Not on at all.

here a handy link that you may find useful :

www.hmrc.gov.uk/vat/managing/reclaiming/bad-debts.htm

kind regards,

Shaun.




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Thanks Shaun, I thought it was. I really feel like ringing HMRC, despite hating HMRC! I feel like dobbing people in to the authorities to get my own back for the awful week Ive had. I just sent them an invoice for delayed payment on three invoices and will hound t hem until they relent!

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Go Joanne, Go Joanne... lol

The issue with reporting them of course is that they will say that they have paid inclusive of VAT but they disagreed over the amount. They would not say that they have not paid the VAT.

From HMRC's perspective the problem is your clients not theirs. They just want their pound of flesh from the person who owes them the money and to them it is a no never mind that your client is unable to get the VAT from their client.

Whoever at HMRC came up with this system did a brilliant job of ensuring that the unpaid collectors burden the bulk of the risk for no reward.

Go on then, now go hound them into submission

Have a good weekend,

Shaun.

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Whoever at HMRC came up with most of their twaddle.......

I will hound and hound and hound and bark very loudly if they ignore me. confuse

You have a great weekend too - enjoy the sun.

Joanne  biggrin



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Cheshire wrote:


You have a great weekend too - enjoy the sun.



Cheers, I would but considering the chosen profession if I go out in daylight I would burst into flames.

Most light that I seem to get is the warm ambient glow of the computer monitors, lol



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Hahaha. I am rebelling, I dont care about my piles anymore (no not THAT kind!!) and Im off to the garden with a book and a glass of something alcoholic, hic!

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