I went to a local college the other day to ask about AAT4 and if they do it.
Long story short yes they do and I can do it for free! (Kinda)
The government has launched this year, for courses starting in September or later a student loan aimed at the over 24's! You can get funding for your course, as long as its level 3 or 4 and you won't have to pay a penny back till you earn over 21k!
There are no credit checks, or minimum house hold income marlarky gumf! Just a straight forward have you live in UK for more than 5 years, do you have a NI number, then the loans yours!
Strikes me as a 100% mortgage kinda situation so I don't expect these will be around for long so get em while you can! Search for 24+ loans in google to see if your leaning provider supports them! :)
Kind of reminds me of the voiceovers you used to get watching tv in Scotland "except for viewers in Scotland that have to put up with this p**h".
In other words - it's only for the English or rather, for courses in England.
But you've had Government funding for ages and we've had sod all this side of the border. (Same with Wales).
It seems that for years England has been treated as the cashcow for all of the other parts of the UK but receieved absolutely nothing ourselves.
Right, thats further education sorted. Free healthcare for the elderly next. And subsidised universities, And free prescriptions...
Get those things and we don't all need to retire north of the border anymore. lol
p.s. before we end up with York being burnt and pillaged by rampaging Scottish armies again just to emphasise that the above was written tongue in cheek.
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Really I'm going to look into this one. I haven't finished my course and from september I will need to pay again so funding would be great of its there.
I went along to an AAT advice session last night for Level 4 and they had leaflets for the 24+ loan. I asked the tutor what would happen if I wasn't accepted and she said they haven't had any problems yet theres no credit check or criteria to meet apart from that you're over 24 and studying for a recognised qualification. So just waiting on a letter from the college now to apply for the loan. Thanks!
I have signed up for 24+ advance learning loan and starting in Sept for AAT level 3.
You have to apply for the course first, once you are accepted on the course then you can apply for the 24+ advance loan.
To qualify:
*Aged 24+
*Living in the UK
*Studying with a college or training organisation in England
*Enrolling at level 3 and above
*Getting a loan doesn't depend on your income and credit checks are not carried out
*repayment are based on your income and won't begin until your income is over £21,000 a year
This is great news for the muture students wanting to gain new qualification. :)
Hey, It is good that you want to do AAT Level 3 and 4. Anyways if you are looking for best college then you can check the details of ---------------- (#1).
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Hey, It is good that you want to do AAT Level 3 and 4. Anyways if you are looking for best college then you can check the details of West London Vocational Training College.
Do we need to go through this again? There is a large SpamKebab shaped hole in your teaching staff, and unfortunately (fortunately) he is a one off, and we have him!
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Will take a while to sort out as got to do some background documentation of the banning as well and I'm in the middle of something else at the mo.
Should all be neat and tidy before 14:00 today.
lol on the Spamy comment.
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Yip Steve, it seems to lead to some resentment that the Scottish Government have different priorities from those which Westminister have for England. In all honestly, I think those in England are being short changed. I think you guys should have your own parliament too dealing with the devolved matters. We get a load, some agree, some disagree. Free prescriptions, free personal care formthe elderly, free bus travel for the elderly, no tuition fees at university, no Winsor report killing our police service, no Tory government ripping apart our NHS. All in all, I'm glad to be in Scotland (can you tell which way I'm voting next year?)
But the issue is Kris if Scotland votes for independance will such prove to be a white Elephant.
I'm, not disagreeing with anything that you've said (not a big fan of our current administration myself but at least they're better than the last bunch!) but I cannot help but think that the finances have not been thought through properly.
For instance, Scotland will need to maintain its own army rather than it being financed through Westminster. That said, one would need less of an army if we didn't keep going off fighting in wars that were none of our business.
I remember a radio 4 program (also saw it later in the newspaper) where Scotland was complaining about the amount of money going South to Westminster. But the counter was that for every 1p that goes South, 6p goes North.
Without that 5p difference would the sums still stack up for the amount of free stuff available in Scotland.
Would all of the free stuff fall victim to independance?
Then again, as a seperate country Scotland would be entitled to EU assistance / loans.
And there's another problem. What does Westminster do if we end up with another Greece / Iceland next door?
How severed will the ties ever be really and if they are not severed then what is the point in independance.
On a positive note for England of course independance would mean that we do not get any more primeministers or chancellors like Gordon Brown... Swings and roundabout as they say.
Personally I would be looking very closely at where Holyrood expects to finance the increased expenditure from before casting my vote as I think that there may be an element of wishful thinking in the facts and figures that have been presented thus far.
Some of the above thoughts aside, the totally seperate open border neighbours arrangement works well for the USA / Canada so to my mind with a lot of work and a bit of luck it could work here using the same model.
Interesting times as they say.
Shaun.
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Interestingly though Shaun, is that Scotland has 8.4% of the UK's population, and take 9.3% of the public spending. On the faxe of it then it looks like Scotland receives more than it's fair share until we remember that the UK's books don't balance. scotland actually pays 9.9% of UK taxes. I actually think that independance is the best deal for Scotland and for the rest of the UK. Even those in the no camp now admit that these sums add up, no one is saying any more that Scotland can't make it. The arguements have changed to which way they'd be better off.
I personally think we'd be far better off because we wont be paying silly money for a nuclear deterant that we can never use. We wont be off fighting other peoples wars, pretending that we are the worlds policeman. We'll concentrate on what matters to those in our own country. It really doesn't come down to mo ey anyway, it comes down to where do you want your decisions made, I'd prefer an SNP governement that the majority of Scotland elected than a tory one we didn't.
There is no denying that 8.5% of the UKs population is in Scotland (84.5% in England, 4.9% in Wales, 2.9% Ireland (all figures rounded up)).
If you looked at that another way you could say that the entire population of Scotland is 64.8% of the population of London.... Statistics are a great thing aren't they.
Whilst public spending would not be reduced by devolution I would not be so confident upon maintaining the tax take north of the border.
A lot of Scottish businesses have been purchased by English companies (Scottish Widows, Banks of Scotland, etc. (#1)). To remain in Scotland businesses would be asking whats in it for them which would pretty much force Holyrood to reduce the Scottish corporation tax bands making it economically beneficial to leave operations in Scotland rather than transferring back to London but in doing so such would reduce the Scottish tax take.
That said, reduced tax would see others moving to Scotland possibly forcing Westminster to match Scottish tax rates so maintaining a single (not so) UK level of tax resulting in a cross border tax setting regime reestablishing a link in the tax systems of Westminster and Holyrood.
What I'm trying to say is that tax now and tax post devolution are unlikely to be comparable.
Also 8.5% of the population using 9.3% of public spending means that every man, woman and child in Scotland uses an average of £12,205 of expenditure compared to £10,889 for everyone else in the UK.
For all the figures that we can bandy too and fro at the end of the day what really matters is not what makes financial sense but rather the ability to govern ones own affairs.
I'm sure that Scotlands as fed up of meddling from Westminster as Westminster is of having Scottish Governments in Power over England.
Maybe on a small scale this is showing the world what will eventually happen to the EU as there is just too much history between the member states for it ever to last so seeing how the UK is fragmenting should perhaps be a lesson to those seeking to create a single European state.
We seem very much to be doing in Europe the same as new managers coming into a business. Centralise - decentralise - centralise - and keep repeating with every change of manager.
Anyway, I'll be interested to see the new breakdown on national statistics as apparently such were supposed to be released in July but still nothing so far.... Wonder what it is that they don't want to tell us this time!
#1 Natwest went the other way but as RBS is now pretty much owned by Westminster that one's a bit of a mute point.
p.s. I'm not anti devolution and I'm not indicating superiority of one side over the other. I'm simply playing with your statistics.... We'll do HS2 next, lol.
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Well my first session was Monday just gone... and i'm still aprehensive... quite a few youngsters in there who want to muck about all the time... doesn't help that they all went trough AAT2 together.
The first lesson was filling in bloody simple maths and english tests... hey ho, get to the real stuff next week! Watch this space! lol
Just picked on this thread, which as usual on here went off on a different tangent. lol .
As one of the Directors & Treasurer of ABCC (UK) Ltd we have regular contact with NIACE, who lobby government on adult learning in England, Wales. From the meetings I've attended I take it that there is to be significant funding for vocational courses that are aimed at Level 4 and over.
Saying that, funding ppossibilities have shifted so much in recent times its hard to keep up.