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Hi,

How do you deal with food & drink for a restaurant business ?

I have a figure for sales  and one for Bar and restaurant

Then my purchases figure and Bar and resturant figure

Im aware that most foods and drink are zero rated but in a restaurant it is charged
Now would you claim the VAT on the sales but not claim it on the purchase of the food and drink?

Ive brought the revision kit and am stuck on this bit.


What I have is as follows -

Vat on sales                           11020
Vat on sales restaurant          5440
Vat personal use                         60
                                    total    16520



Vat on purchases                    3036
vat bad debt                            100
Vat on petty cash                    80.29
                                    total   5464.29


so for bo 5 on tax return I made it  10873.71


But the Answer page makes it    7006.71

So now im slightly confused, I must be dealing with the food and drink wrong ?

Any ideas 

Michelle



-- Edited by Mlawson on Thursday 11th of July 2013 06:13:33 PM

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Sorry Shamus,

There is VAT on purchases restaurant of 2160.00 too.

Ill try and brake the question down as its quite long -


Total sales gross = 66120
Total bar sales =12540
Total restaurant sale =20100

Surprise party using stock 300.00 from both bar and restaurant

Total purchases gross = 19836
Total bar and restaurant gross = 12960

Petty cash gross = 481.75

Bad debt gross = 600



Cant get the same figure for box 5 on the return as the one in the answers given.

 

 

Ive manage to attach the page as a pdf




Michelle



-- Edited by Mlawson on Thursday 11th of July 2013 08:29:40 PM

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Is there something missing from your question above as 3036, 100 and 80.29 come to 3216.29, not 5464.29?

I can see that there are adjustments to be made but its just that the question seems incomplete.

Can you write out the question exactly as it appears please, or if its online point us to where we can see it in original form, or even scan it and include it as an attachment.

many thanks,

Shaun.

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Hi Michelle,

somethings not right with that final figure (In the last Kaplan ACCA paper P2 text there were 13 pages of corrections published on their site!).

Actually, good point. have you logged into Engage using the reference code inside your book? (I assume that they have that for ICB books?)

If there's nothing on engage or you don't have an access code, What does the answer say in relation to boxes 3 and 4?

I would almost bet that the figure that is giving you grief is not the result of subtracting 4 from 3.

Actually, I wouldn't mind knowing what figures it has in those boxes.

kind regards,

Shaun.

p.s. When you first register ownership of a book to your engage account it can take up to qa couple of days to get online access to the additional resources and corrections.

p.s.2. At the moment, in the absence of any corrections to the originating data, I'm thinking that £10,873.71 is correct.

p.s.3 you couldn't give me the ISBN of your version of the book could you so that I can purchase a copy in case you or anyone else has any further difficulties.



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Morning Shamus,

Thank you for your reply.

The book I have is Manual bookkeeping Level 2 revision kit by kaplan publishing, the IBSN 0978-0-85732-780-2. I have only brought the book this week is was published in2012 so its not an old book.

I will post the answer page tonight when i'm home from work.

But basically they have

1 16520
2 none
3 16520
4 5646.29
5 7006.71
6 82600
7 27731.45
8 none
9 none


I had got everything right except box 5

Thank you

Michelle






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Hi Michelle,

its as I suspected. Someone at Kaplan can't subtract.

£16,520 - £5646.29 = £10,873.71.

Its a mistake on their part not yours which at this level is pretty unforgivable as students assume that the books are correct and that they are wrong.

That said, how much better do you know this now that you have spent hours beating yourself up over it.

The other thing that frustrated me with the question was the in built assumption that all pruchases including petty cash have VAT and the VAT is at the same rate.

The petty cash line should really have been accompanied by a further line stating that VAT receipts at standard rate were available for all petty cash expenditure.

Well done for getting the correct answer despite the book Michelle, You had everything right including box 5.

kind regards,

Shaun.

p.s. many thanks for the ISBN link. I've added it to my Amazon basket for the next time that I buy another batch of books.... I really must work harder to sustain this serious book habbit that I've got, lol.

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also, did you get the total purchases to £27,731.46 rather than £27,731.45?

I know that its only a penny and in the real world you would only be entering whole numbers in that box anyway but just wondered if you were a penny astray there as well?

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Thank you for putting my mind at rest, I'm pleased I was right but as you say I could have done without the worry of it.

I too was a penny out, I'm not impressed no

Wonder whether to carry on with the revision book or stick to my course notes my exam is in two weeks.

 

 

Michelle



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Keep going with the revision Michelle.

Even though it gave you hassle because it was wrong you were right and trying to discover your non existant error has absolutely ingrained that knowledge going forwards.

Any time you get stuck with anything just post on here and we're always here to help.

How many questions are there in the book (it doesn't seem very big at 0.8cm).



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There are 62 question leading right upto balance sheet and profit and loss, lots of different scenarios.
then the answers.

I'm on question 30 now so will continue over the weekend and the go back to my course notes and past exam papers.


Michelle



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