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I'm currently studying and have the following question if anyone would like to jump in please do, its a 2 part question the first about personal use assets for a sole trader then leading on to the impact of first year rules.

Here is the scenario:


Sole Trader
A car was purchased through the business for £1200 private usage 20%
The car hits the 18% Capital Allowance limit due to the emissions, therefore the annual capital allowances would be:

£1200 * 18% and then 80% to account for private use

What would the pool look like i.e opening, closing balance etc.. in relation to full amount or business amount

 

Thanks



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Do what we all had to do and go and revise your textbooks.

Why should you expect anyone on here to do your course questions?

Sorry to be blunt but will be better for you in the long run.

Mark



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Hi Mark

Its not my coursework but after learning about capital allowances it didnt cover private use and I thought what if ......

Without the private use the pool would be:
Opening Balance £0
Additions £1200
CA £216
Closing Balance £984

But with private use is the opening balance 80% of the cost, or is it the full cost but CA at 80% etc..

As I stated in my "introducing myself" post I often have questions that come from wanting to know more than I need to, I have an inquisitive mind and like to absorb knowledge and not just know what I need to know to pass an exam.

I guess I wanted to look on this website as lots of expert mentors helping and pointing me in the right direction, if it was in the coursework I would look at a text book, if I could find it on google I would still check, just because its on google doesnt make it right ! If it was on the HMRC helpsheet 222 (I think) I wouldnt need to ask.

If I hadnt mentioned coursework would the answer have been any different ? i.e. a book-keeper who just hadnt had experience with private use ?

I would like to thankyou for taking the time to answer the post, any answer blunt or not is appreciated as time is valuable to us all.



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Hi agpiah,

sorry, missed this one yesterday,

got to go out now but will chat a bit when I get back in.

Excellent attitude towards the subject matter by the way.

all the best,

Shaun.

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Hoping I am getting the gist of what is being asked here...

With private use, you would disallow 20% of the £216, and so put £172.80 CA on your tax return, but you would still reduce the pool by £216 to give you next years opening balance, which would be the £984.

I am rushing so I do apologise if I have misunderstood but I hope it helps :)



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Hi

Thanks that makes perfect sense, I was thinking that if I reduced the pool by the 80% then eventually they would get full benefit of the total cost which didnt seem right which is why I posted the question.

Thankyou very much for your time, I'll post part 2 which is about if this then happened with an opening year later (I think I know the answer but just looking for clarification).



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Hi agpiah,

right, I'm back.

Getting tax right is all about thinking in Pro Forma's.

The capital allowances calculations quite a large one but surprisingly is one of the easier to remember.

Private use assets are broken out into their own column which as said by Michelle is recorded as full value but the allowances (far right) column contains only the business usage percentage.

Once you've worked through a few of these you will find capital allowances very easy.

The book that you need in order to thougherly understand tax at this level is Taxation by Alan Melville (You need to buy this book every year. Generally I work through it over Christmas week in order to set me up for the coming year).

Its not cheap but its worth every penny. (As evidenced by almost every version since FA06 being on my bookshelves)

Current version is FA13 (which I don't have yet but its on order). See here : www.amazon.co.uk/Taxation-Finance-2013-Alan-Melville/dp/0273789260/ref=sr_1_1

kind regards,

Shaun.


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Hi

Sorry it took so long to say thankyou - but THANKS

Book is now on my Christmas list !

Kindest Regards

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