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Hi everyone, I have a new client that is a sub contractor and he has been stopped a retention amount of of 8% on his weekly invoices, how does the client claim this money back from the contractor, I am doing the 2012/13 self assessment for him, he only started with the contractor in February 2013 so the amount stopped for the period of 2012/13 was only £182.92, but I also need to advise him for the 2013/14 tax year as he still is being stopped the retention on a weekly basis.

Also do I include the retention amount that has been deducted as income for his self assessment or is it not included as he hasn't actually received this money yet.

I hope I haven't made that too complicated no

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Long time since I dealt with retention but retention should be released back to your client after a certain length of time (can't remember how long now) If it wasn't released we used to chase it as a normal late payment.

Not sure about classing it as income for his self assessment but I would say not until he's actually received it.


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I would say that on the basis of the matching concept the money belongs to the tax year it's earned in and not that which it is paid in. I recently took on a contractor who had £10,000 of retention outstanding, it had been for 5 years and he had contacted various people to recover it for him with no joy. I just wrote to the companies on his behalf and it was paid, so not sure what the other folk were doing.

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Hi
What are these retentions are they in addition to the tax they hold back the 20 or 30%, what's the retention for? Never heard of it?

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HMRC will accept both the accrual and cash accounting concepts with regards to retentions. BIM 51520 on Income recognition for retentions gives the answer/options.
Stuart, retentions are amounts withheld until the relevant work has been passed as complete/satisfactory by building inspectors, main contractors etc.

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Ahh I see, so kind of like a part payment, in reality.

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Quite a jolly view from HMRC there. You'll probably never get paid it so we don't care how you account for it.

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So it looks like he may never get the money back. Seems a little unfair. So I think I will only account for the money if and when he receives it.

Thank you everyone.

Lisa

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