How does Statutory Sick Pay work when you are paying someone a week in hand?
Say for instance they work June 2,3,4,5,6 (35 hours) and they are paid for this on 13/06/14
Next week they work June 9,10,11,12,13 (35 hours) and they are paid for this on 20/06/14
Next week they are off sick on June 16,17,18,19,20 - would it be 2 days SSP on 20/06/14
The next week they are off June 23,24,25,26 and work 7 hours on 27th - would it be 4 days SSP paid on 27/06/14 and 7 hours paid on 4th July
Lucky this isn't one of my own clients but in the accountants office I sub-contract in each week. They were having problems using Moneysoft Payroll - it didn't help matters that their client was also on holiday and only found out about the sickness after they came back. So they can go and unlock the periods and re-process them the correct way. And also so they know the correct way to do things in future. (And also so I know the correct way when I do it on Sage payroll).
I was having bother searching for this on the internet as I was using the expression "lying time" and the search results were throwing up lying days. Is "lying time" a Scottish expression instead of "week in hand?"
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When I was growing up in Glasgow, there were few people around who were fortunate enough to be deemed "Staff" and hence, salaried. Mostly everyone else (that I knew) had to work "a week's lying time". They cursed their "lie week" on return from any holidays etc. (Am I allowed to say cursed?) I, too, am much more familiar with "lying time" than "week in hand" and have also previously searched the internet to little avail. So, I reckon it's definitely a Scottish thing.
In answer to your question, assuming all other conditions for SSP are satisfied (can you tell I'm ex-DWP?), I would "lie" the SSP until the following week. This seems more logical to me but I suspect it wouldn't really matter to HMRC. The timing of payment would make a difference to someone leaving the employment and going onto benefits, but then, it would come under the same rules as any wages paid at end of employment. I can't find a definitive reference for you but on the .gov.uk website, they state the following and although they don't specifically mention when it should be paid, I would interpret it as becoming payable in the same way as normal wages, hence, think you could use this to justify holding it over until the next week:
How youre paid
SSP is paid by your employer in the same way as your normal wages (eg weekly or monthly).
I'm really surprised that there isn't any more info anywhere. I even checked my training materials and there is no mention of this scenario. Good luck in making your decision (I think that's all it is, down to your discretion )
How does Statutory Sick Pay work when you are paying someone a week in hand?
Say for instance they work June 2,3,4,5,6 (35 hours) and they are paid for this on 13/06/14
Next week they work June 9,10,11,12,13 (35 hours) and they are paid for this on 20/06/14
Next week they are off sick on June 16,17,18,19,20 - would it be 2 days SSP on 20/06/14
The next week they are off June 23,24,25,26 and work 7 hours on 27th - would it be 4 days SSP paid on 27/06/14 and 7 hours paid on 4th July
Lucky this isn't one of my own clients but in the accountants office I sub-contract in each week. They were having problems using Moneysoft Payroll - it didn't help matters that their client was also on holiday and only found out about the sickness after they came back. So they can go and unlock the periods and re-process them the correct way. And also so they know the correct way to do things in future. (And also so I know the correct way when I do it on Sage payroll).
I was having bother searching for this on the internet as I was using the expression "lying time" and the search results were throwing up lying days. Is "lying time" a Scottish expression instead of "week in hand?"
Personally I would stick to the same week in hand rule. You are processing payroll for the previous weeks hours. So 16-20th June 2 days sick pay on 27th June and 23-27th June 4 days sick pay + 7 hours on 4th July
If you had paid sick pay on 20th June they would end up with a weeks pay + 2 days sick pay and be taxed on it in the short term.
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