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My husband has an accountant for his self-employment Return.

I am not book keeping training,  I think that will be obvious, sorry.

I do all my husbands paperwork in preparation for his Accountant.

 I use cash Accounting, and every month I ensure his bank balance agrees with his invoices and receipts. There are normally less than 10 entries a month.

 

My husbands trade is property maintenance, just him with a turnover well below VAT threshold.

He normally works alone but a while ago needed help and used a subcontractor.

We asked his accountant to assist with CIS but was told he does not do payroll,

 He suggested that my husband buy payroll software which also calculates CIS.

I was a bit wary but the software was excellent.

 

The first three CIS payments went better then I expected.  The software produced a weekly payslip, a detailed and basic Monthly Statement I must admit to feeling pleased with myself.

 

However, my husband then used another Sub Contractor and he was VAT registered.

I followed all the instructions, and produced the weekly payslip, and checked it and it made sense:

Invoice £ 890.00

Materials £0.00

VAT        £178.00

Due        £1068.00

 

The payslip shows :

Basic                                                 £1068.00

VAT Included                                      £178.00

Total payments                                 £1068.00

Amount subject to deductions              £890.00

CIS deductions                                   £178.00

Net Payment                                     £890.00

The detailed Payment certificate shows the same.

 

However as its now the end of the month I prepared the Standard Statement of Pay and Deductions to give to the Sub Contractor but it does not agree with the payslip .

It shows Gross amount (excl VAT )           £890.00

Materials                                                £0.00

Amount Liable to deduction                      £890.00

Amount Deducted                                    £178.00

AMOUNT PAYABLE                                    £712.00

 

 

Can anyone assist where I have gone wrong please as I expect the Subcontractor to ask why there is a difference.

Thank you in advance.

 

 



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Jacky wrote:

 

The payslip shows :

Basic                                                 £1068.00

VAT Included                                      £178.00

Total payments                                 £1068.00

Amount subject to deductions              £890.00

CIS deductions                                   £178.00

Net Payment                                     £890.00

The detailed Payment certificate shows the same.

 

However as its now the end of the month I prepared the Standard Statement of Pay and Deductions to give to the Sub Contractor but it does not agree with the payslip .

It shows Gross amount (excl VAT )           £890.00

Materials                                                £0.00

Amount Liable to deduction                      £890.00

Amount Deducted                                    £178.00

AMOUNT PAYABLE                                    £712.00

 

 

Can anyone assist where I have gone wrong please as I expect the Subcontractor to ask why there is a difference.

Thank you in advance.

 

 


 Hi Jacky, both are correct.  The first is a record of what the subby has been paid, the second is a record of what CIS is due, and what has been filed at HMRC, for which the VAT is not relavent. 

On the software I use (moneysoft) it does say amount exc VAT £890  total payable £712



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Many thanks indeed.

Confidence restored.

best wishes

jacky


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