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Hi I have a client who hates having a massive vat bill at the end of the quarter (doesn't everyone!!) and wants to change to monthly so they can pay monthly. I have gone on to HMRC website and found the form vat484 to make changes to vat registered business and seen that you can in fact change to monthly if 'NOTE: MONTHLY RETURNS ARE ONLY ALLOWED IF A BUSINESS IS IN A REGULAR REPAYMENT POSITION' Now I am being a bit thick.... does this mean only if they are claiming the vat back every quarter i.e are owed back vat from HMRC?????

 

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Rachel

 

 P.S. SHould have stated that they do not receive vat back - they are in a position where they pay vat every quarter



-- Edited by rachel_mclean on Wednesday 5th of November 2014 10:42:57 AM

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Hi Rachel, yes that means they are re-claiming vat. I'm not aware of any way you can get them on a monthly return basis but might be worth a call to HMRC. Another idea may be to get them to set up another bank account where they can transfer the vat monthly so the money is saved ready to pay out quarterly.

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Have a look at annual vat scheme if it is of interest to you



-- Edited by richard2013 on Wednesday 5th of November 2014 04:32:57 PM

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yes I have a client who has repayments every time and therefore is on monthly returns

If it is a payment they have to stick to quarterly or annual

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What would happen if you worked out your VAT monthly and paid it, then submit the usual quarterly VAT return when due?



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Knowing the hmrc it would totally confuse them !
I suppose it is an option though

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Hi John
I reckon that would just confuse them far too much. I had a client who filled in a vat retun online incorrectly and pressed send without checking what he had keyed. He only owed £97 but he phoned the same day to tell them what he had done, he then paid the tax, he then filled in a manual return form they sent him, then 6 months down the line he was sent another form saying they were going to refund his overpayment. Several forms later they still think he has overpaid. I would say only pay when you have to, to save all the extra hassle, but agree with Robs suggestion....save the funds in another account. That's what I encourage all my clients to do.

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Right, and there was me thinking I'd come up with the perfect solution smile

Guess it's stick it in a savings account til the VAT's due, I mean we can't have good old HMRC confused can we biggrin



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Don't forget that putting the money into a savings account until the VAT is actually due means the client is collecting any interest on the money, rather than HMRC - making the savings account the much preferable option.

Unless your client is likely to dip into that account whenever they see fit because, well, there's money in there and it could be put to 'good use'. :/

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