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The following review appears on Waterstones Website and sums up well the works of one texbook writer.

 

Ode to Peter Marshall

By Heather Lewis

A scholar of business stood out in the yard

Wondering why people found bookkeeping hard

And on this subjec t he pondered long

Then he concluded that teachers were teaching it wrong.

 

So the learned man sat down to write

A textbook that would teach it right.

The book was launched at a grand event

And each new edition went from strength to strength.

 

By the ninth we were into the digital age

And so he wrote a book on Sage.

While such packages simplify a task so intensive

They nevertheless are very expensive.

 

So when austerity was strapping his learners to the bone

He wrote a manual for them to build their own,

And when he'd completed his all-encompassing triple

He sat down and enjoyed his favorite tipple.

 

 

 



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Interesting that someone so closely tied to the ICB thinks that the bookkeeping training companies are getting it wrong.

lol, just messing with you.

I don't think strength to strength fits in the above.

I liked "By the ninth we were into the digital age and so he wrote a book on Sage" as it sounds like a mix between Dr Suess, Siegfried Sassoon and Room on the Broom.

Welcome to the forum... You realise that the rest of this thread is now likely to turn into something similar to a Rupert the Bear story with everything rhyming.... Your fault, you posted at the end of Jan when a mix of tiredness, frustration, delerium and need for humour have started to set in to almost everyone here.



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Shamus wrote:

Interesting that someone so closely tied to the ICB aahhhhh, was going to ask Heather to introduce herself. thinks that the bookkeeping training companies are getting it wrong.  lol

lol, just messing with you.

I don't think strength to strength fits in the above. Dont start picking at it otherwise I might start on the grammar, which would be unfair as I wouldnt even attempt to write an ode in the first place.   Plus with my typing mumbo jumbo on here this week that would be doubly unfair.   

I couldnt see it on waterstones!!  But I have used at least one of his books!


I liked "By the ninth we were into the digital age and so he wrote a book on Sage" as it sounds like a mix between Dr Suess, Siegfried Sassoon and Room on the Broom.

Welcome to the forum... ditto You realise that the rest of this thread is now likely to turn into something similar to a Rupert the Bear story with everything rhyming.... Your fault, you posted at the end of Jan when a mix of tiredness, frustration, delerium and need for humour wibble wibble have started to set in to almost everyone here.


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You're teaching the right stuff but not necessarily in the right order.

I wasn't suggesting Dr Marshall felt bookkeeping trainers were teaching the wrong stuff. It was that he felt it was the right stuff, but being taught in not the most appropriate way (echoes of Morecambe and Wise and Mr Preview). Moreover, it refers to 25 years ago, when the 'face of the accounts' approach was the norm. 

In the early 90s, there were articles appearing all over the place, supporting his 1st Edition, claiming he had  found a hemispherical mismatch between the teachers and pupils of the subject. This was due to the fact that most pupils were females and most teachers were male and, moreover, most of the latter were accountants, who are relatively right-brained even amongst other males. People who end up in bookkeeping tend to be relatively left-brain functioning - sequential rather than spatial, arithmetical rather than mathematical.

This was the basis of his 'new' approach. I have to say, I found it worked for me and his books have gone from strength to strength. He is an educational psychologist, after all, so he should know.

Perhaps we can lure Dr Preview into the discussion, so he can elucidate more. I miss his articles.

Heather Lewis

 



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Heather Lewis wrote:

 

You're teaching the right stuff but not necessarily in the right order.

I wasn't suggesting Dr Marshall felt bookkeeping trainers were teaching the wrong stuff. It was that he felt it was the right stuff, but being taught in not the most appropriate way (echoes of Morecambe and Wise and Mr Preview). Moreover, it refers to 25 years ago, when the 'face of the accounts' approach was the norm. 

In the early 90s, there were articles appearing all over the place, supporting his 1st Edition, claiming he had  found a hemispherical mismatch between the teachers and pupils of the subject. This was due to the fact that most pupils were females and most teachers were male and, moreover, most of the latter were accountants, who are relatively right-brained even amongst other males. People who end up in bookkeeping tend to be relatively left-brain functioning - sequential rather than spatial, arithmetical rather than mathematical.

This was the basis of his 'new' approach. I have to say, I found it worked for me and his books have gone from strength to strength. He is an educational psychologist, after all, so he should know.

Perhaps we can lure Dr Preview into the discussion, so he can elucidate more. I miss his articles.

Heather Lewis

 


Who the heck is Dr Preview????

Don't you think that its a bit wrong to suggest that women can do bookkeeping and men can't? Or that men can teach and women just listen? Or that men are accountants and women are "just" bookkeepers (you don't say that but such seems implied).

I am left here open mouthed wondering what century you just fell out of?

Men and women make equally good book-keepers, accountants, students and teachers of both. The greatest accountant I know is a woman, same with the best solicitor that I know. Maybe I should tell them that their brains are not wired properly for their chosen occupation and they should leave all this complex stuff to us men whilst they get on with being clerks and secretaries.

Take a test between people such as Joanne, John, Michelle, Amanda, Rob, Kris, Sheila, Bill, myself etc. and see if you can find consistent differences based upon sex.... You're just regurgitating outdated sexist stereotype twaddle

People here are respected based upon their skills and knowledge rather than what sex/race/religion etc. they happen to be and how such fits into generic psyciatric profiling.

I look forwards to your next post where no doubt you will reveal that Leeches have been found to be the new wonder cure for all ailments.



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