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Hi,

 

I am doing the books for a client and he uses his own mobile to make business calls.  He also uses his car for business use and is keeping a mileage log.

 

Will any of these items need to go on a P11D?

 

Elaine



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At the moment there is a P11d dispensation for various expenses -

online.hmrc.gov.uk/shortforms/form/P11DX

If only business mileage is claimed / reimbursed then the mileage, along with the phone can go onto the dispensation. There are other rules and regulations so you'd have to dig deeper to see if it is fit for purpose for your needs.

Now, from April, the dispensation scheme, as it is today, is to be no more. I'm not sure if it's just a re-branding issue, or further caveats will be added.

Hope that is of some use to you.

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Hi Elaine, I'm assuming the person is a Director?

Mileage allowance is fine, and doesn't need a P11D unless he is paid more than the approved rate.

Mobile phone reimbursement would be a taxable benefit so would be subject to P11D, as well as Class 1A NI. (1)  It would be best if the Company took a contract out instead which would allow the Director private use as well.

If he can itemise the cost of business minutes these can be re-imbursed  without a taxable benefit, but most contracts are now inclusive of minutes, so it wouldn't apply.



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abacus12345 wrote:

At the moment there is a P11d dispensation for various expenses -

online.hmrc.gov.uk/shortforms/form/P11DX

If only business mileage is claimed / reimbursed then the mileage, along with the phone can go onto the dispensation. 


 I'm fairly certain that's not what you actually meant Johnny smile



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Hi Elaine

As John said the mileage is at approved rates doesn't need to go on the P11d. Mobiles can be a bit tricky if not in the company name here is an earlier thread (stared by me when i had the same question) www.book-keepers.org.uk/t60419145/mobile-phone-in-directors-name-p11d-or-payroll/

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Well I'd assume the phone is in the company name...

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you can't assume John, most of the time I find that it is in a personal name as they say they couldn't (or forgot) to get the contract in the company's name. They do pay for it through the business bank account usually though.

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Hi All,

Thanks for the responses. The mobile phone is in the directors name and not the company name. I did say to him he would be better to get it registered to the company.

I'll have a read in more detail.

Elaine

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To be fair Elaine I should have read from your opening post that it's his own mobile. I apologise. I bow down to you meadowland and your superior knowledge.

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