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Hi  i am doing pay role for self employer by using payroo so do i need to efile every time i create payslip? and on payslip as 2 cross for e file and every time i fill details coming as an error so please can anyone help where i am doing wrong?

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Hi Miniaxi

I'm not familiar with Payroo so someone else maybe able to help you more.

What is the error message you're getting?

Is the person an employer ie does he employ himself as a Director, or does he employ other people if not a Director?



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when i click on e-file live on box another page open say check error page print but do i need to submit RTI every month? or just for tax year for example 2016/17 and i have done one from April and got certificate for submission of RTI and on this certificate include all details so need more help because some one say if you don't do it on time HMRC will charge you will some one explain more please
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Hi Minaxi,

like John, I do not use Payroo so any responses that I give will not be software specific.

you do not make the scenario clear.

Is the person actually self employed (as youseem to indicate) or a director of their own company?

If self employed (rather than limited) why are they running a payroll at all? Are there any other employee's of the business?




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I don't know - but...have I misunderstood? Are you trying to process payroll for a self employed individual? Your opening line has left me bamboozled. Granted, he could be self employed with employees... ;)

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Sorry - my bad :(

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Hi Miniaxi

If you've already processed April ok, May should be straightforward. Yes you do need to file an RTI for May so you need to find out what is causing the error.

Just as a thought try doing it in a different browser (eg if you're using Firefox try using Chrome and vice versa.

 

Also you've managed to confuse 3 of us now by referring to the client as self employed.  Obviously the fact that you've submitted April's means there is a PAYE scheme in place, so I'm guessing this is a Director?



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Hi sorry for confusion he is director for his company i should have made it clear on first time and thank you all for helping me
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Many thanks for the update. That now makes more sense.

There is an option for annual returns for directors but the fact that you do not know about it probably means that you are not signed up to it. Also to use this scheme the employee needs to be paid annually, not monthly (There are ways of handling that but the principle is of one salary payment per year).

As we can assume that you are not registered as running an annual scheme (and not wishing to clutter up the answer here with talk of monthly nil / inactivity EPS's) the simple answer to your question is yes, you need to file an FPS for your clients every month.

HMRC are within their right to charge you £100 one second after midnight of the day that the submission was missed however at the moment there is a three day window for the smallest employers where no penalty will be charged.

The way that you explain the April payment are we talking about the end of year filing at the start of the month or the filing at the end of April? If the former of those you have now missed two months so I suspect that £200 in automatic fines is currently pending.

You need to catch up as quickly as possible filing both of the missed months and be prepared to be issued with a penalty notice.

At the end of this month ensure that you have it marked on your calendar to file an FPS for your RTI on (say) the 28th of each month giving you time to resolve any issues (you seem to be having problems with your software. Considering this I would try the free version of 12pay (#1) which lots of site members use rather than Payroo where you seem to be the only one).

Before RTI the method as you describe it is the way that people worked so I am wondering if you may have studied old (pre April 2013) Payroll training materials. If you studied from old books / videos its worth noting that one should never study Tax or Payroll from old study materials as some changes can be quite dramatic such as here in the case of RTI.

hope that helps,

Shaun.


#1 The site is divided between those who use 12pay, Those who use Moneysoft Payroll and those using software such as Sage Payroll or Quickbooks payroll (generally because of the dictate of cliehts rather than by choice). Whilst I am sure that there is other payroll software used by site members you are the only one that I know of using Payroo which will restrict the amount of site help in relation to the software itself that people are able to provide



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Hi Minaxi
here is some useful initial reading for PAYE - you will notice that there are links embedded in the notes as you go through them, plus further ones on the right hand side - worth a read....

www.gov.uk/paye-for-employers

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