I'm not really sure - it's a bit subjective; if you understand/know how to do xyz then xyz might seem routine to you - but to someone else, you're probably some kind of wizard. And along those lines, I know my way around Sage quite well - so everything I do (or know how to do if it's not something I do regularly) is quite routine. Therefore anything I don't know how to do is advanced.
And just to confuse matters, I'm good at thinking outside the box when it comes to solving problems (with Sage and other stuff) - I'm sometimes so good at it that I'm so far outside the box, the box isn't even visible on the horizon and there may be doubts as to whether or not the box even really exists.
However, trying to be objective about it, I'm inclined towards suggesting anything involving data input, and running default reports is standard, so venturing into report designer territory might qualify as advanced.
Possibly.
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Vince M Hudd - Soft Rock Software
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What I'm trying to gauge is in industry what would be seen as normal- are there any major differences, what do they do that we don't.
Without any employed experience, solely relying on being SE, could I justifiably say I've a deep understanding of Sage, on a CV?
I quite like the idea of the management side, don't get me wrong I've a massive interest in the financial side too.
It is a real subjective question, as an oppose to objective one - as you say Vince, more opinion based than fact.
To me I was thinking manipulation of data, report design, turning nominal report into pivot table information. Turning the same report into working papers -
I had the idea of creating a lab sort of environment, building a business up from nothing, creating invoices etc, performing an analysis, going through the motions of management accounts, implementation of FRS 102. A complete beginning to end sort of process.
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Johnny - Owner of an overly-active keyboard.
A man who can read, yet doesn't, is in no way wiser than a man who can't.
Thought you had maybe seen a job spec for something you were applying for.
As Vince says this is a hard one to pin down. My view of maybe what could be covered under sage advanced skills:-
good knowlege of report designer
management of multiple currencies
Perhaps stock control using the products function, including purchase order purchases and sales
managment of multiple companies
project stuff.
how to get the best out of using departments and extended sage nominals.
Being able to use external software to feed information in and out of sage eg external invoicing programmes (on the easier side) to say managing a group banking arrangement scheme.
Sure there could be some more, but it's just knowing how far you can push the software.
Re the above part I've taken as your quote, I would suggest this is not a sage skill at all. Dragging a report from an old sage which has no direct feed into excel would require some knowledge, but mostly from I think about 2009 sage has been able to dump into excel without any shenanigans and therefore this is just then basic to advanced spreadsheet skills.
Agre with Vince also in that sometimes with sage you need to know how to think outside the box to get it to do what you want for some of the more unusual scenarios. Advanced skills in this area is when you almost do them without too much pondering!
Hth
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Joanne
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Sort of Sage manipulation is in itself an advanced skill.
It wasn't for any particular job which I had seen. But it is always good to keep the options open.
I think now I can actually say I have experience, albeit seeing 'self employment' on a CV could well be seen as unmanageable by some - but that's another story!
It is a route I would like to try at some point, who knows where various roads can take us.
Thanks
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Johnny - Owner of an overly-active keyboard.
A man who can read, yet doesn't, is in no way wiser than a man who can't.
seeing 'self employment' on a CV could well be seen as unmanageable by some - but that's another story!
My Dad had this problem when he wanted back into employment after selling his business, took quite a lot of applications but someone saw the skill set he could bring and he worked through to retirement in a great role. Just takes that one special employer, its just that that one is hard to find!
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Joanne
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