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I have been asked by an employer if I can change the employee's tax code, based on a screenshot sent from his digital tax account.  He is currently on BR code but his online account is showing 1150L.  Neither I or the employer has been sent a P6 notice.

As far as I'm aware I can't do that, but just to double check, is it permissible?  I'm confident 1150L would be applicable, but when he started he had another job, and then went full time.  My niggle though is that there will be a previous pay amount on the P6



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Personally I wouldn't change the code without notification from hmrc. Could the employee call them and ask for a copy of his tax code. Debbie

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Hi Debbie

He has apparently done that just over a week ago, for the second time.  They told him they would send the P6 out again but it still hasn't been received.



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Hi John
Probably a daft question, but have you done the 'check for new notices' option in Moneysoft?

My son had this a couple of years back - he had to phone twice, but it worked after the second call. Depends on the staff member you speak to at HMRC - still waiting for parents tax code change and need to phone again. So annoying!

Isnt RTI great!

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Hi Joanne 

I don't have 64-8 for this employer (white label so it's indirect contact) so would I still get P6 notices through the software (I did check)

On a whim, I've just contacted HMRC and if the employee sends the previous pay and tax I can change the code (yes I'm aware of caveat emptor or whatever it's called) Its on the DTA so that shouldn't be a problem.



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We dont' get them sent out by post at all. We have to log onto the HMRC for all tax code change notices.  I didn't think you could change anything without this but then again when were HMRC ever consistent?



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Can you not get them through your software Julie?

I understand why John cannot now I know this is one of his white label clients.

The company could try their online account John, but the employee should get one and I wouldnt do it with some kind of acknowledgement that HMRC have what they need - how do you know the employee has sent what he needs to? (lets face it at the moment he has an incentive to do so, but not if you have already changed it) . Whats DTA?

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We use Sage 50 payroll but we dont get tax notifications through it. I get an email telling me if we have any employer notices and I log on to gov.uk, then enter the change into Sage. It is more efficient than the old postal system & we've not missed one yet, (shame the P11D's can't be efficient though).





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I don't get notified by Moneysoft, get email notification from HMRC and then log in to get the details.

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We use Sage 50 payroll but we dont get tax notifications through it. I get an email telling me if we have any employer notices and I log on to gov.uk, then enter the change into Sage. It is more efficient than the old postal system & we've not missed one yet, (shame the P11D's can't be efficient though).




 Ah no, of course, sorry, as you wont be down as agent for your own company! Bonkers isnt it.



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Kinbuck wrote:

I don't get notified by Moneysoft, get email notification from HMRC and then log in to get the details.


 Are you listed as agent?   If so you go in and check via the software, although Im not sure now if it flashes up as something coming in or not.



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I am the agent Joanne. Haven't used Moneysoft for long so will look at that, thanks

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The company could try their online account John, but the employee should get one and I wouldnt do it with some kind of acknowledgement that HMRC have what they need - how do you know the employee has sent what he needs to? (lets face it at the moment he has an incentive to do so, but not if you have already changed it) . Whats DTA?


 DTA is digital tax account.  This is where the screenshot came from but its only showing the top half. The bottom half will show me the other employer pay and tax.  I've no intention of changing it without seeing the bottom half and entering that info into Moneysoft.



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Kinbuck wrote:

I don't get notified by Moneysoft, get email notification from HMRC and then log in to get the details.


 Hi Janet 

As far as I'm aware you don't get notified beforehand by Moneysoft.  Maybe next time you get an email notification see if it pops up on Moneysoft by going into Tools then download PAYE notices.



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As far as I'm aware you don't get notified beforehand by Moneysoft.  Maybe next time you get an email notification see if it pops up on Moneysoft by going into Tools then download PAYE notices.


 Thanks John, I'll look out for that.



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Leger wrote:


 DTA is digital tax account. 


 Oh of course it is John!  Sorry, having a DOH day!  Well a bit of a DOH year so far!



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Cheshire wrote:
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 DTA is digital tax account. 


 Oh of course it is John!  Sorry, having a DOH day!  Well a bit of a DOH year so far!


I must be having one too, I was reading through the thread and then thought why has John started about 'Double Taxation Agreements' when he was talking about UK tax codes, confused me for a bit

Too many acronyms in this world



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Artois wrote:
Cheshire wrote:
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 DTA is digital tax account. 


 Oh of course it is John!  Sorry, having a DOH day!  Well a bit of a DOH year so far!


I must be having one too, I was reading through the thread and then thought why has John started about 'Double Taxation Agreements' when he was talking about UK tax codes, confused me for a bit

Too many acronyms in this world


Lol Doug. 

Differential Thermal Analysis

or

Deferred Tax Asset.

In my befuddled head I didnt even think Double Taxation Agreements and I think Ive dealt with more of those that Digital Tax Accounts!!!!!!

Need an expresso martini! Or maybe had too many!



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Artois wrote:
Too many acronyms in this world

 ITAWY!

 

(I totally agree with you)



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Thank goodness you put a translation on!!

 



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He he he 



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Leger wrote:

He he he 


 No, I cant work this one out

Whats the answer John?



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Artois wrote:
Leger wrote:

He he he 


 No, I cant work this one out

Whats the answer John?


 3 happy eggs.



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