Hi all, I am just about to start trading as a bookkeeper, have many years experiance using Sage Line 50 and Sage Instant accounts, but only for one company. As I am looking at doing multi-businesses can anyone recommend the Sage Bookkeeping Club or would I be better off getting Sage Line 50 for multiple clients, why do Sage make it so complicated choosing which package to get? Cost is a major consideration, I know there are other suppliers out there but I am used to Sage.
I couldn't really say which is better for you as I've not looked at the costs, nor do I know if you intend or expect to sell the software (as I think the club would give you a discount).
We do have some members that are a part of the club, and can possibly arrange a discount for you. If you're interested, just get in contact directly with us and we'll point you their way.
Do accountants care which accounting software you use at the end of the day. I know my own personal accountant when I did my accounts on Sage Line50 allways asked me to print off the reports at year end and entered the info onto a spreadsheet. Now I am looking at the various options out there cost is a major consideration, and Sage is not cheap, so I am considering other options and have seen elsewhere on this forum details of Business-Ware which looks very good and is very affordable, does anyone have experiance of this and if so what did accountants think of it?
I think what most accountants care about is receiving records which are correct and fully reconciled. If this has been done on Sage all the better, and theres the chance of book-keeping referrals if this is the case. I know most Chartered Accountants I've spoken to prefer book-keepers to use Sage because they also use it themselves. Therefore if there's any mistakes they know how to easily find them. Using other packages which aren't that known well is fine, but if the accountant doesn't have the software there end then you would need to provide hard copies/PDF's of all the TB's & nominal ledgers etc.
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Sage can export most reports in CSV format... there should really be no need at all to print out and re-enter data.
The software depends on the accountant(s) you deal with mostly. Some prefer Sage, some use other software or a variety. Most should be able to deal with the records in any software you've used, so long as it is clear and correct.
If you've carried out all reconciliations and have working papers for these - it can make light-work for the accountant and that would be much easier (and cheaper) then what software was used.
I dont think you should automatically assume the accountant is comfortable with electronic backups. A few accountants I deal with still type up their year end accounts on word, and do manual extended trial balances. They would not thank me if I just dropped off a memory stick with my clients electronic backups on it. To be sure Id drop them a line to see how theyd prefer to receive the information. If in doubt Id supply a hard copy as well.
I'm not sure if your comment was directed to me, or to someone else here but I don't think anyone really mentioned electronic backups - unless you are just meaning assuming accountants use Sage and can accept an electronic backup?
I was referring to report data - Excel, CSV etc and in dealing with accountants, not clients. I didn't think anyone here was referring to providing clients with any data.
I seem to opened a can of worms with this one, anyway thank you for your replies, I think for the moment I will use spreadsheet cashbook and go down the software route as and when I need it.
I am a member of the sage book keepers club and I pay £44 direct debit per month for 10 months for the Sage 50 accounts 2008, and today I received the sage accounts 50 2009 free! I thought that it was a mistake so I called them and they said as long as I am a member of the book keepers club then I will receive the update every sept! which to me is great news I get the accounts package cheaper than any where I have looked plus I get the sage 2009 free and any other upgrades in the future while I am a member - I don't pay any extra for membership!
Just a quick question - What made you become a member of Sage and has it been a positive move in terms of your business. Also, do you provide Sage training as a service to your customers ???
No probs about the questions, I became a member after a friend of mine recommended that I try them to see if I could get the software cheaper (I did all my training with SAGE that came with the course I did) and they were, by miles and I could not afford to buy the software outright, so I was offered direct debit. I have found so far people that I have taken on to do their books like the fact that I have SAGE, although I did go for a 1 day a week job and they wanted MYOB instead so you can't do all the training on all the software, so I stick to what I know and just use SAGE. I have not been asked to give training by anyone and if they did ask then I probably would say yes.
Like you said, there are so many different types of software out, it would be impossible to cover all of them ! Like you, I am SAGE trained and have too many years experience using SAGE that I care to remember.
Again, you are right to say `stick to what you know`, I will check out the SAGE club and weigh up the pros and cons.
Thanks for your reply, I did eventually find the link late last night after search their website again and eventually found it on a google search, Sage do not seem to want people to find this option with ease thats for sure.