Moneysoft Payroll Manager - The Book-keepers Forum (UK)

Stardoe · Guru

Moneysoft Payroll Manager

Davey · Veteran Member

Hello Pauline I have not used Moneysoft Payroll Manager but like yourself have used Sage Payroll.
which i used for dealing with the Clients in an Accountancy Practise.
It may be of help to visit Money soft web site which is www.moneysoft.co.uk/pm_pay.htm
which gives you some advise on the software hope this helps.

Stardoe · Guru

Hi David,

Thanks for the reply. I'll have a look at the website. I expect I'll soon get to grips with it though, once I start using it

Pauline

Margaux · Member

I have used this payroll system for a number of years now. I like it. The help section is easy to understand. You'll be fine.

lizbolney · Member

Don't be scared. It's an excellent system, and sooooo easy to use.

The reporting is excellent, so you can always see how they have calculated the tax and NI. Its cheaper than Sage Payroll, and can hold more employees than Sage Instant Payroll (the reason I had to change was we took on the 11th employee).

It does all the online filing you need as well.

Only thing it doesn't do, that I know Sage does it to get your HMRC messages into it. You need to do that bit via the HMRC website.

Hope that helps.

Stardoe · Guru

Many thanks everyone for your replies. I'll let you know how I get on!

Liz, what did you mean by getting your HMRC messages into it?

Pauline

semsley · Guru

HMRC like to communicate with you these days by their "inbox". Sage imports this and tells you that you have a message each time you log on.

The other way is to log in to HMRC and look at your inbox regularly.

This is for things like P9s and any other information and updates to regs.

lizbolney · Member

Stardoe wrote:

Many thanks everyone for your replies. I'll let you know how I get on!

Liz, what did you mean by getting your HMRC messages into it?

Pauline

If HMRC send you P9's, you have to log on via the HMRC website to get them. They do not come into Payroll Manager.

Payroll Manager handles the submission og P14/60, P35, p45/46, and recevied confirmations of these submissions, but not other things HMRC send you....unless of course anyone knows differently (to quote That's Life - showing my age, I guess).

Cheers,

Liz

Margaux · Member

If your client has enrolled with HMRC they will have given an email address. All the messages from HMRC go to this address and you just log onto HMRC to view them.

If they haven't enrolled they need to do so either themselves or via yourself as an Agent.

Hope you are getting on ok with this program.

Stardoe · Guru

Thanks for the replies everyone. Actually haven't started using this yet. The previous bookkeeper had registered as an agent, so I will now have to register the company with HMRC in its own right.

The employees of the company are paid a set net pay each month and then the bookkeeper used to "back calculate" the NI and PAYE each month (or that's what the owner told me). Is this an acceptable way of doing things and if so, how the hell do you calculate it? Sorry, not very experienced in payroll yet.

Pauline

lizbolney · Member

No worries, Payroll Manager can do that too. Enter the amount you want to pay them (i.e. net pay) and it calculates the gross pay.

Download the demo version, and see for yourself. And I'm not even on commission!!

Good luck,
Liz

Stardoe · Guru

Lol....thanks Liz. I'll be looking at it tomorrow when I'm in. I've already downloaded the trial version but haven't had a chance to look at it yet! Just needed the confirmation that this was an ok way to do it

Many thanks again.

Pauline

Peasie · Expert

How did you get on with this software?

Stardoe · Guru

Hi Peasie,

Yes, getting on ok with it. Only used it twice of course, with April and May payroll, but it seems to be quite straightforward to use. Haven't come across any unusual transactions to enter yet though.

Are you thinking of using this yourself?

Pauline

Peasie · Expert

Stardoe wrote:

Hi Peasie,

Yes, getting on ok with it. Only used it twice of course, with April and May payroll, but it seems to be quite straightforward to use. Haven't come across any unusual transactions to enter yet though.

Are you thinking of using this yourself?

Pauline

I'm going to download it shortly. I sent them an e-mail with a query (holiday pay from a holiday credit fund which isn't subject to national insurance deductions) and they said it could deal with that. I also noticed it was capable of coping with a Scottish Tax - is there something I'm not aware of? They never mentioned this in their election campaign.

BackOfficeGroup · Guru

Hi

The part about receiving HMRC notifications is, for me, such a great thing, everythign in one place and it also applies those changes for you automatically on the push of a button!

Does anyone know any other software that does this? Its good to find all those querks, as although most software does the calculations, what are the extras that you pay so much for that make life so much easier?

P

Marky65 · Guru

Hi Philip

Do you mean any other software apart from Sage that does this. As that option does make life a whole lot easier when dealing with payroll notifications.

Mark

Julies bookkeeping · Veteran Member

A word of warning when using sage software to download the notifications, it does not always work.

Sage blame HMRC and vice versa, this is another issue I did have with sage this year.

BudgetB · Guru

I've been using Moneysoft Payroll for a couple of months now, having previously used Tas Payroll for many years.
I've found it really easy to set up and navigate around, and there is a good selection of reports. Compared to Tas it does just as a good a job at an absolute fraction of the price!!

Don Tax · Expert

Stardoe wrote:
... employees of the company are paid a set net pay each month and then the bookkeeper used to "back calculate" the NI and PAYE each month (or that's what the owner told me). Is this an acceptable way of doing things and if so, how the hell do you calculate it? Sorry, not very experienced in payroll yet.

Pauline

Hi, I don't really like this way of doing things even though I do so all the time. It insulates the employee from the tax system. They don't feel any rise in the rate of tax, nor feel any benefit if the budget increases allowances, as is happening under the coalition now. If an employee reaches 65, they may be put on code BR and the employer will have a raised tax bill (albeit with a lower NI cost). If someone has underpaid tax in a previous year, and this is coded out, the employer will just raise the gross.

If the present govt. were to serve a full term, I would like my client's to feel the benefit of their wages bill going steadily down as well as feeling the VAT rate going up.

Having said that, Payroll Manager and all Moneysoft products are great to use, but they're only updating the former these days.

YLB-HO · Guru

I use Moneysoft payroll for my Payroll bureau. Its the easiest program to use, even works out the Childcare payments etc. It can also can workout gross pay from net pay if you need to.

I have a PAYE Desktop viewer on my PC which I've had since 2009. When I got it, it downloaded all the notices since 2006 for all the payrolls I have. This included notices from before I was the agent, and notices which I had not previously had! Its a HMRC application which allows employers and Agents to receive, store and view their code and notices on their own PC's. I only download the notices immediately before I start the payroll runs - normally just once a month. It has a facility to "action" notices so I know which ones have been done and which ones have not. Although I don't use it, it also has the facility to import and export notices to other Desktop Viewers (e.g. to a sub-administrator)

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/paye/tools/pdv/index.htm