I am in the throws of putting pen to paper and writing letters to small businesses/Self employed people in the area, and I was wondering how many of you on here actually follow up the letter with a phone call? If so how many convert into a client etc.
I will also be trying accountants in the area as well.
One last thing, is it abit quiet out there at the mo??? How is eveybody finding it???
Many thanks, any suggestions always greatly appreciated.
I my marketing letter I always put that if I haven't heard from the business by a given date then I will call them to discuss their bookkeeping requirments this way I am forced to call, I still don't find this bit easy and have considered outsourcing it but as has been said before no one knows your business as well as you do.
I have had a few enquiries lately but apart from that I have found it fairly quiet. Let's hope it picks up soon.
Thanks Mark for replying, I have had a customer recently drop off due to his lack of business.
I used to cold call for a telephone sales job quite a few years ago and wasn't keen on, but looks like I will have to bite the bullet and follow up!!! I supppose if you don't ask you don't get.
I hope it picks up soon too.
Thanks, A
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I have always followed up my mailings with a phone call. I have found it to be beneficial, but the numbers have been so small that I am now looking to convert the recipients to warm leads by using my mailings to funnel people to my website allowing them to download an ebook in exchange for their details, not sure how it will work but without trying these things I'll never know.
I change my letter almost every time I do a mailing to try to improve it. Most of my mailings sell a single part of my service meaning I can send multiple letters to the same people over a number of months.
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That is a good idea about selling a single part of your business in each letter giving you the opportunity to follow up. I had always done one letter saying here we are and this is what we do and if that didn't work I wasn't left with a follow up. But this way you get the additional opportunities.
It takes time Amanda. I find that sending a letter every month, or even every 2 months is a good way to keep my business in the forefront of peoples minds. The reason I do this is because I believe of the businesses I target, only a small percentage will be actively looking for the type of services I offer. The remainder will be passive, but I want them to think of me when they do need the services I offer. I think that it is very difficult, near impossible to make sure your letter lands on the mat when they are thinking about buying your services.
I posted here a few months ago about sending a simple 2 page newsletter out to businesses. This had the benefits of not being simply a sales medium, but rather providing information with my branding. I feel this puts you in clients minds without feeling pressure from you. The other thing is that by sending useful information business owners will think of you as knowledgeable in your field and may recommend you to friends even if they don't use the services themselves.
I have moved away from the hard sell to a softer option, and will be moving further away from hard sells in the future. My number one aim through my marketing is for every small business in Ayrshire, when they think bookkeeping, to think KM Bookkeeping Services.
The other thing I have had difficulties with is helping people to understand what a bookkeeper is and what they do, and most importantly how that differs from an accountant. The 2 biggest knock backs I get when calling businesses are "My Brother/Uncle/Sister ect does my books" and "I have an accountant". I am now aiming my marketing materials towards addressing the second issues.
When I first started sending letters, and those of you who have a copy of my early letters will know, I concentrated on telling business owners "I can do this, and this and this. You need me", I have now turned that on it's head and start my letters with a single issue that small businesses like those I am writing to face, and then tell them how I can solve it.
I feel I have gone on forever here, but I hope you can decipher all of my ideas and maybe use some to improve those you have already.
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I've not had to do the hard sell yet, due to local advertising some time ago I did alright. I want to step it up again now and will have to do follow up calls when I send out the letters etc. I know what you mean about people not understanding the difference between bookkeeper and accountant, I have that in the past. Are you in a affluent area where you are, I don't know you area as I'm down south. Do you think peoples areas that they live in/ target ie some have alot of small business others may not have so many affect what you get out of your marketing?
Out of interest do you offer tax returns? And one last thing if you have client that you say do their paperwork for quarterley because of the VAT return, do you charge extra over and above you fees for the quarter??
Thanks for your replys, I think this forum is great for bouncing ideas of people.
I think the number of businesses available to target will have an effect on the success of a campaign. I subscribe to selectabase. They send me a list every month of about 40 new businesses starting in Ayrshire. I try to send about 20 letters out every week. I tend to mail on a Tuesday and follow up the following Wednesday. 20 is a manageable number for me, and I find the time-scales work for me as people have had a chance to read the letter, but not enough time to forget it.
I don't offer tax returns, but sat my exam on Friday so may offer them soon.
I work my prices on value pricing, so the quarterly fee doesn't come into play much. I generally encourage all my clients to have their books done monthly. It makes it easier for me, and it can be sold to them as having their books completed on a monthly basis will help them better understand how their business is performing. Tell them that you can do it quarterly but as there is the same amount of work it'll still cost the same, but will only give them historical information to make decisions based on.
Personally I try to aim to earn £35 - £45 per hour.
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Hi Kris Thanks for the info. How much do you pay for selectabase??
What exam did you sit last week? So once you have passed that exam you can then offer tax returns as well? Thats something I want to offer in the future, I was going to do my AAT tech first, hopefully will enrol in the near year cash permitting!
When you take on a new client and you are estimating how long it will take you, do you base it on £35 per hour, I mean base it in your head on that not tell the client its £35 per hour? Thats a good rate to get. What if you underprice do then advise and put the price up the following month as we all know that some people are very disorganised!!!!
I've just done my ICB Self Assessment Diploma, hope to be able to offer self assessment if I pass.
Selectabase costs me about £45 per month, I'm sure I could get it cheaper, and when the contract is up in a few months I'll try to beat them down a bit.
I offer all of my clients a fixed price, selling it on the basis of no nasty surprises, always know what your paying, don't pay me more for being efficient etc. I'm sure you know the stuff. On that basis I am very careful to evaluate the amount of work from each client. But if I do make a mistake then I would take the hit. I make an agreement with all clients that unless their workload exceeds preset limits I will not increase the price within a year. To be honest I'd need to make a massive mistake to get less than the £15-£18 per hour I'd get if I charged by the hour. If I ever make a mistake that bad you can be assured it would only happen once.
You'll see from many of my posts that I'm a huge fan of fixed prices. When I charged by the hour I'd tell the client it was £15 per hour, their next question would be how long will it take. People just want to know the bottom line. If you can ensure that your process is streamlined enough you can make so much more money per hour with fixed prices and no one bats an eyelid. If I asked for £35 per hour I wouldn't have half the clients I have.
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I have been charging by the hour but I have now decided to charge a fixed rate, the old ones I shall leave as they are because to be honest they never ask how long its going to take when they give me their paperwork and they are happy as they are. I know what you mean if you said it was £35 per hour you wouldn't get anyone, nor would I if I charged that.
I'm glad I have picked your brains today as when you hear how successful other people have been and how they have done it, its a real confidence boost, which I certainly need at the mo.
Where you a Salesman in a previous job as you seem to be very good at that bit, the website looks great too.
I did sales for quite along time before a career change, and thought I wouldn't have to use it again, but hey ho looks like I will be on the phone!
I completely agree with Kris and allways try and go for fixed prices and a value based model.
The difficulty I find with hourly rates is to work out the charge to clients for answering emails and phone calls. To echo Kris, I also sell it on the basis of everyone knows where they stand. It's easy for me and the client to budget. Plus it's in my interest to complete the work as efficiently as possible.
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I've had no experience in sales. I was a community worker, then managed credit unions. But you learn, when I got my first house I didn't know anything about plumbing either, but once I saw their prices I learned quickly.
Good luck with your marketing, and thanks for your kind words about my website. It is due to be changed a little in the near future to make it sell better.
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