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Hi All

I am new to the forum, I am a self-employed book-keeper and was hoping someone could answer a quick question for me. 

I have taken on the PAYE for a small limited company which was set up in May and have a situation I have not come across before.  To date the directors have not paid themselves although I have recently received their P45's.  Should I send their P45's off to HMRC with the start date of employment as 01/05/10 immediately or send them off when they start paying themselves?

Many thanks in advance.

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I am not a PAYE expert, but I wonder if by not stating they are employees, it could affect their state pensions (ie. a gap in their NI record)? I would phone HMRC.

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Hi Karibou,

As they are not paying themselves wages then they are not employed by the business...they are directors who draw a dividend I'm guessing? If they are not going to be employed by the business there's no need to send their P45's.

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I'd be inclined to ask the Directors if the intend to pay themselves a salary.

Drawing a dividend can cause problems if it was their only source of income. As Quentin posted they at least need to draw a salary at the LEL to qualify for state benefits.

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Thanks for your replies. 

The Directors will be paying themselves a small salary from 01/01/11 so when I send off their P45's should I state employment started on 01/05/10 or 01/01/11?

They will also be paying dividends too.

Many thanks for your help.



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Directors NI is calculated differently, it is done on their annual earnings can be paid either on the standard or alternative method (payments in advance). 
As it is a new business are you aware there is a dedicated new employers phone number you can use for the 1st 3 years? If they have registered for PAYE then they should have been sent details.


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Hi

HMRC do not like Directors only paying themsleves dividends from their company if this is their only source of income!

On PAYE they will be employed from when they joined the company ie 01/05/10, even though you have not paid them until now.

The P45 should be sent electronically via your software ASAP.

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