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Hi there

I'm sure this may have been answered previously but I am in a bit of a rut and don't really have the time to trail through all the threads on here.

I am confused how I should record the transfer of money from my business bank account and my 'cash account'

Do do as follows;

Dr business a/c - Cr cash account

Or do I..
Dr business a/c and Cr cash a/c as capital inroduced to the business? 

Or would it be easier to...
Dr business a/c as 'drawings' and Cr cash a/c as 'capital introduced?'

I am getting very confused about how to calculate this for the end of year.  

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Money out of Bank into Cash
Credit Bank Debit Cash

Money from Petty Cash to Bank
Credit Petty Cash Debit Bank

Hope this helps
Neil

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Bank to Petty Cash

Cr Bank Dr Bank

Petty Cash To Bank

Cr Petty Cash Dr Bank

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Bank to Petty Cash
Cr Bank Debit Cash

Petty Cash to Bank

Credit Cash Dr Bank
Hope this helps

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Hi Chelle

It isnt clear what you are asking.  Both business bank account and cash account are assets of the business.  Or liability if the bank is overdrawn.  In theory you can never have an overdrawn cash account as you can never have negative cash.

If you are introducing funds to your business you should

Dr Bank/Cash
Cr Directors Loan/Capital Introduced

If you are withdrawing funds from the business you should

Dr Directors Loan/Drawings
Cr Bank/Cash

You will use directors loan if you have a ltd company and drawings/cap intro if you are sole trader/partnership.

Regards

Mark

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If you mean that you are withdrawing cash from the bank to use as petty cash then you would

Cr Bank Account
Dr Cash Account

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Hi Mark

Thank you for your reply

I wasn't very clear - sorry.

I am a sole trader. I wanted to know how to record withdrawing cash from my business bank account to be credited to my cash account - And used for business purposes. A lot of my customers pay in cash so I thought I should be using a 'cash account' to record such transactions.

I only use a custom made excel spreadsheet to calculate my accounts.
I have a column in the payments side of my bank account which reads 'To Cash a/c' which is deducted from that months income to balance the account.

So....

If I withdraw cash from my business bank account (My Cashbook) and credit this to my cash account, Do I record this as 'capital introduced' to my cash a/c? As this money is originally from Income into the bank account. If I put it as income surely this would be included in my taxable earnings twice, once in the cashbook and again in the cash account?

I have been told by HMRC to deduct my 'capital introduced' from my overall taxable profits at the end of the year, (as this is what the business owes me back and therefore reducing my taxable profits?)

I am no expert and It has taken me nearly half an hour to type this as I kept getting confused! I know what I am trying to say but explaining it is rather difficult!!
Any suggestions, help, tips, or walls to bang my head on welcome!!


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Hi there,

I think it's a lot simpler than you think. All you are doing is transferring money from your business bank account to your cash account. It isn't capital introduced as it's money that's already in the business in your bank account. If you were transferring money from your personal bank account to your Cash account, then it would be Capital introduced.

The only entries that you need in your books are Credit bank account with the amount transferred and Debit Cash account (as stated by BudgetB). It's not strictly income, as you are just transferring money between accounts. Your Cash account is an asset account and increases in asset accounts are always debits.

Hope this helps smile.gif

Pauline

-- Edited by Stardoe on Wednesday 9th of March 2011 09:05:27 PM

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May I ask what Trade you are in Shelbell?

Only reason I ask is that it will be easier to understand what you do and how you your books in relation to your trade and to offer advice on whether you are doing them the best way.

With regards to the HMRC....LOL!!!!


In my opinion, you should only use a cash account if you aim to retain any cash received from customers for use as a petty cash float with which you pay cash for small expenses such as stamps for example. If you receive cash from customer and then bank all of it, you don't need a cash account.

I would be interested to review your spreadsheet template to see how you do it.



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