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Good Morningsmile!

I am terriblely sorry for having to ask questions in Sunday morning, but I really can't go out to play if I don't understand these (This is sad... I knowno), anyway here they are:

1 - about reverse the opening accrual and prepayment

This is the area I always feel not sure about - all the text books mentions this but rarely I could find one with complete and clear explaination (at least this is how I feel), I've come up some ideas but not sure if I have understood it correctly: for instance, if there is an opening balance of "2109 Accrual CR £200 and 1103 Prepayments DR £1000", and the accrual contains 150 electric bill and 50 water bill from last financial year, and the prepayment is for my rent this coming month in this financial year, to reverse them, I entered:

Journal

2109 Accrual DR 200

7102 Water  CR 50

7200 Electricity CR 150

1103 Prepayment CR 1000

7100 Rent DR 1000

then used the reversals to clear the Accruals and Prepayment balance.

-------have I done it correctly?----

 

2 - what does "Hire purchase" mean? I checked COA and seems it belongs to "long term liability", but what if a photographer hire a spot in a hotel for his photo shoot, does this bill belongs to "Hire purchase"? or Does it belongs to "Overhead", more specifically belongs to "Equipment Hire and rental"?? what would be the nominal code for this bill in Sage 50?

 

If anyone would help me pleeeeese?

Thank you

Anna

 



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Hi Anna,

to answer question 2.

Hire Purchase is a type of finance, like a loan. It's classed as a long term liability because typically the agreement lasts for ,say, 3 years. Quite often Assets such as vans are bought on hp. So in year one you

Dr Assets
Cr HP Agreements

Then over time the liability is reduced by the payments made against the agreement.

In the example you used, you're correct the "hire of a room" is something different and I would open a new nominal in 6000 range, but others may treat it as an overhead rather than a direct expense.

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Hi Tony,

Thank you so much for your reply.

I think you are right for this to have "hire of a room" in the Direct Expense range. I checked my books and it basically says that direct expense is part of direct costs, which is "a cost that is directly attributable to the manufacture of a product (or provision of a service)". And "Overhead costs for a business are the cost of resources used by an organization just to maintain its existence". I have created a new code of 6901 for this bill.

Thank you
Anna
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Would someone please confirm my answer for the first question??? I really hope I got it right.





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No problem - which book are you using - I really like those definitions?

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I have got all different books, the defination I qouted above is comparably clear for my understanding, which I found on this link: http://skoola.com/lecturepage.php?id=1472&cid=2

And for more detail I would say ACCA F2 Management Accounting and look for the Cost range

I look for anything I can found to search for the answer.

Anna

P.S. Hope you have a lovely weekend, Tony.



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Hi there,

me again ---

Would someone please confirm my answer for the first question??? I really hope I got it right.confuse

Thank you so much.

Anna



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Hi Anna,

Yes, you have reversed your accruals and prepayments correctly.

Original journals

             Dr            Cr
Accrual200
Water bill50
Electricity150 
200200
Prepayments1000
Rent 1000
10001000

Reverse journals

Accrual200
Water bill50
Electricity 150
200200
Prepayments1000
Rent1000 
10001000

Pauline



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Thank you so much Pauline, now I know how to the accrul and prepaymentsaww!! You know, I had been stucked here for 4 days by now, and I just couldn't get my head around, I really can't thank you enoughsmile!

Have a lovely day!

Anna x



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