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Hi there, I am quite new to this site and noticed that the help here is extremely useful.

Anyway, I am learning SAGE by self teaching myself and doing evening courses to help me. What I dont understand is Journals.

Would someone be able to explain to me what Journals are and why I need to use them.

Also I have found out that I need to use Journals for employee wages, can someone also help me understand how I input the information for wages step by step please.

Thank you I appreciate it a lot.



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Hi Sarah,

You have the basic ledgers - sales, purchase, bank and nominal.

Journals are the way to process transactions which don't use these ledgers - for example accruals or depreciation.

Also, if you have processed a purchase invoice and posted the transaction to the wrong nominal account, you can use journals to reanalyse.

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Hi, you could do no better than subscribe to Quentin's 12 week guide :-

http://accountingforeveryone.com/


He's great at down to earth explanations, especially terminology. When I started in 1982, 1 half of the double entry was done in the computer room and the other half across the landing, on pencil and paper lol

I'm sure he won't mind me recommending it to you.



-- Edited by Don Tax on Tuesday 28th of June 2011 05:53:34 PM

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The journal entry for wages in sage is the following:-

 

Dr 7000 - Gross wages

Dr 7006 Employers NI

Cr 2220 Net Wages

Cr 2210 PAYE

CR 2211 NI (Total Ni - employers and Employees)

 

This being that the Dr's - gross wages and employers NI are  cost to the company (Expense) and the CR's are a liability until they are paid.  Once the net wages, NI and PAYE have been paid they wil automatically go to a zero balance.

 

Hope this helps



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Do I need to use journals for employee wages, can't I just go straight to Bank>Payment

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The amount paid from the bank account is the net wages - after PAYE and NIC. The P&L figure for wages should be gross. As shown by Sammy1 above, employer's NI also needs taking into account.

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Do I need to go through journals everytime I need to post wages?

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Rahdi Rah Rah wrote:

Do I need to go through journals everytime I need to post wages?


Yep - "journals" are the technique used to record the entries into the accounts.

 

 



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Journals are also used to ensure errors are not made. If you Jnl the Wages, when you make the various payments you can check they are correct. The Jnls post the wages to control accounts on the B/s and by putting the payments againsts these control accounts, if any of the payments are wrong, there will be an outstanding balance left on the control account. It makes it very easy to find payment errors.

The reason many people make errors with payroll is they don't use Jnls.



-- Edited by YLB-HO on Thursday 30th of June 2011 04:47:15 PM

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Understanding journals is another reason why one should get to grips with manual bookkeeping before tackling a computerised package

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Stardoe wrote:

Understanding journals is another reason why one should get to grips with manual bookkeeping before tackling a computerised package

Pauline


 I agree



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Rahdi Rah Rah wrote:
Stardoe wrote:

Understanding journals is another reason why one should get to grips with manual bookkeeping before tackling a computerised package

Pauline


 I agree


 Me too.



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