Plans for the diamond jubilee weekend - The Book-keepers Forum (UK)

Don Tax · Expert

Plans for the diamond jubilee weekend

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

Hi Neil,

Now Personally I'm more of a royalist than a parlaimentarian. But it has to be a good royal... Like...

Henry V who laid waste to France (Agincourt)

Edward III who laid waste to France (Crecy)

Henry I who laid waste to France (Normandy)

.... are you seeing a pattern emerging here?

... By the way, if you read any French history books they actually won all of those battles.

-- Edited by Shamus on Friday 1st of June 2012 06:37:49 PM

Stuartbham · Senior Member

Anyone got any plans for the the diamond jubilee weekend?

Don Tax · Expert

Hiring a boat down the Thames performing Anarchy in the UK
just joking.
Tim

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

We're off to see Snow White and the Huntsman as it looks like a cross between Lord of the Rings and Stardust and as neither my boy nor myself can wait for the Hobbit to be released in December we're taking this one as an interim fix.

Might make it a double and watch the Avengers Assemble (shame that he's too young still for Prometheus).

Ooh, and Apprentice final at 20:00 on Sunday evening.

That aside it's just a normal weekend of work, more work, yet more work, bit of study and occassionally visiting the site. (yer right, I'm almost always on here)

How about you matey? Any plans???

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

lol Tim,

Can you believe that he now does butter commercials!!! Yer, that'll show the establishment!

Stuartbham · Senior Member

We've been invited to a garden party next door, although I think I'd prefer to watch the avengers!

Sammy76 · Senior Member

Well I think I will still be stuck in quarantine. My youngest two have the dreaded pox (or chicken pops as the 4yr old likes to call them) and they are showing no signs of scabbing over therefore we are condemned to the confines of our four walls for the foreseeable future. Will give me a chance to catch up with work and finish my Letter of Engagements for my new client.

numbnumber · Senior Member

After a hectic two months on the accounts side, I really need to do some unpaid work and do my MLR paper work but I think I will be able to spare time to toast the Queen with a few gin and tonics. Our village is having a Royal Tea Party on Saturday 9th so saving myself for that.

kjmcculloch83 · Expert

I plan to take the boys to inveraray jail tomorrow, then the rest of the time is work, I'm not shutting today, Monday or Tuesday. Just a normal weekend here.

Kris

JohnBoy · Veteran Member

As a staunch republican I'll be avoiding the celebrations as much as possible.

My wife and the girls are going to a party tomorrow so I'm hoping for a quiet one, just me a cold beer and a good film.

Rhianrach · Expert

Might go and watch prometheus as my two girls are sleeping at friends, (sorry Shaun) smile

Spamkebab · Expert

I'll be too busy bleaching my eyeballs to notice any diamond jubilee, im not anti establishment, in fact im neither here nor there much like the scarlet pimpernel, but i dont do royal shindigs.

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

No need for appologies Steve, I'd watch it myself if I could.

Just got back from watching snow white and the Huntsman and it's good... Not Brilliant, but an excellent stop gap between now and the Hobbit. Which, coincidentally was advertised before the film (obviously I'm not the only one who saw the link).

Think that the Dwarves may have a larger role in that movie (forgive the pun there).

Also, showing the geek in me. If you go and watch SW&TH look at the good guys shields, it's the engraving from the back entrance into the mines of Moria. Coincidence?

Sheldon would be so proud of me wink

Don Tax · Expert

LOL - and Norman French kings were occupying the English throne for three centuries.

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

Ahh, but the Normans were'nt French, they were vikings which is where their dubious claim to the English crown came from (love the way that they wait until we've wasted half of our army beating their relatives at Stamford Bridge before they turn up though).

I know what you mean about French kings though (even if they were more Dane than actual French). Not sure about our other kings but wasn't it Richard the Lionheart that didn't actually even speak English?

Well, at least you can't get much more English than the house of Windsor.... Or should that be house of Hanover (or even Saxe-Coburg-Gotha?).

Don Tax · Expert

Pretty sure Agincourt counts as Henry V was the first to have English as his native language.

Also, I read somewhere that Royalist leaders in the 1640s often referred to Parliamentarians as 'Saxons'. So at the highest level there lingered conviction for 600 years that we were all native savages lol

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

Mmm, Henry V might have spoken English but he was Welsh. (and possibly the greatest king that this country has possessed).

Didn't know that one about the Saxons. You learn something knew every day...

On the Agincourt thing did you know that its actually the wrong place and the real battle was at Azincourt. Sounds similar but nowhere close.

I've not been myself (it is on the to do list) but there's a museum to the Battle there and apparently nowhere in the museum is it referenced that the French lost and one could actually come out believing that the museum was a celebration to their winning the battle.

ADAS · Guru

kjmcculloch83 wrote:
I plan to take the boys to inveraray jail tomorrow.

Been there, it's worth a visit

Spamkebab · Expert

God, i forgot how much i love his place lol. I think it's the way that bookkeeping and accounts info is somehow slipped in, inbetween all the normal and mundane everyday facts lol.

Wella · Expert

Royalist to the core

God bless the Yew tree for long bows

God bless armour pearcing arrows (Bodkins)

God bless ... well God really for putting the two together in to the hands of Welsh and Cornish archers and sending them to France

Rhianrach · Expert

Wella wrote:
Royalist to the core
God bless the Yew tree for long bows
God bless armour pearcing arrows (Bodkins)
God bless ... well God really for putting the two together in to the hands of Welsh and Cornish archers and sending them to France

I heard that's where the two fingered salute originated.

Don Tax · Expert

Hey Neil, a worthy mention should be made of our hometown Middleton longbowmen who were amongst the last Sassenachs to use that weapon at Flodden. Just to stay on topic though, the 'Black Prince's ruby' in the centre of the Queens coronation crown was also worn by Richard III at Bosworth and Welsh/Norman/English King, Henry V at Azincourt. What were we talking about, again :o)

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

Battle of Bosworth field... Not the best day for Richard III there.

Interesting history to that Jewel. So it would have been at Crecy as well (The Azincourt practice run).

I'm getting all patriotic now. Maybe we'll do an Elizabeth I double feature this weekend. (Kate Blanchette does a pretty inspiring speech on the cliffs of dover) topped off with the battle of Britain.

Now those are the video's that should be compulsary viewing in Schools!

Amanda · Expert

I went to a street party, we had a band playing and lots of food and wine and the rain held off!

Watched the apprentice final, well the last 20 mins anyway.

Back to work for me today and tomorrow.

-- Edited by Amanda on Monday 4th of June 2012 10:07:01 AM

-- Edited by Amanda on Monday 4th of June 2012 10:07:41 AM

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

Amanda wrote:
Watched the apprentice final, well the last 20 mins anyway.

I wouldn't have parted with the cash for any of those suggestions.

The ingredients idea : Can't remember if it was accepted or rejected on Dragons den but I remember that it was on it (vaguelly recollect two chefs, one from working on boats) and it was protected so the suggestion was a non starter (although to my mind was the best of the four).

A recruitment business : Really! after all this you come to me with a recruitement business.

A Hedge Fund : Have you any idea how much risk is involved in a hedge fund!!! (both in financial and reputation terms)

A call centre : Like we don't already have too many of those and this one was a call centre to find leads for other call centres!!!

Loved the way that the call centre option didn't come with any cost projections as those would come out of the £250k.... How do people with so little grasp of the basics of finance even get into this process.

I caught one of the series of the American apprentice a couple of years back and they are basically all MBA's before they even get considered (doesn't stop some of them being dumb when it comes to the real world but at least they understand the basics).

Contrast that with nil costs in a business plan.... Made me cringe.

I think that the interviewer was an awful lot gentler with her than I would have been.

-- Edited by Shamus on Monday 4th of June 2012 12:38:47 PM

Spamkebab · Expert

God bless the Queen, 4 days of study. Should i be wearing a Union Jack hat or crying in my coffee?

Wella · Expert

Rhianrach wrote:
I heard that's where the two fingered salute originated.

I heard that too, and believed it is was because the longbowmen were so feared that if ever they were caught the draw fingers were cut of so they couldn't draw a bow again. Unfortunately this was disputed on QI (damn you Stephen Fry)

More trivia though, was that dysentry was so bad that the longbowmen went into battle with nothing on from the waist down, they would dip the arrows in the ground to infect any wound from the arrow that wasn't fatal, and they had no sense of chivalry because they gave no quarter to downed knights, and dispatched them using a stilletto type blade, either through the eye slot of the helm, or unde rthe nape guard at the back. I think that's where we get our British sense of fair play :)

Shamus · Forum Moderator & Expert

To be fair, lets remember that the English were actually running for the coast (due to dysentry, not the French it should be noted).

Azincourt wasn't supposed to be a battle, it was supposed to be about French aristocracy hunting the fleeing English for sport.... It was certainly never imaginged that it would be a slaughter the other way around!

Apparently even more French drowned in the mud under the weight of their compatriots than were cut down by the arrows.

On the flip side of that we had just raped, pillaged and murdered our way accross half of France so the French attitude was completely understandable.

The holiday accross to France was pretty much an annual event and it was only Azincourt that seperated that from any other year.

It was said that there was not a home in Southern England that was not decorated with French booty!

Doesn't exactly tally with the tales of chivalrous knights that we got as children does it!

P.S. On the score of 10,000 French dead to 25 English dead I'm pretty sure that was because in the middle ages you only counted knights. There were certainly more than 25 children in the baggage train that the French bravely slaughtered whilst the battle was going on elsewhere.