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Hi

Year end is 31 May (VAT date 31 May)

Ive invoiced for services provided in May, invoice date is 1 June.   How I deal with?   (and in Sage?)

Also I have a mobile phone bill invoice dated 1 June, representing May billing - so would I be right in assuming I enter this phone bill amount as an accrual?



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Hi Joanne, (again!)

I would prepay the sales dated May, and accrue the costs as you say dated May

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I really should have more confidence in myself as that was what I thought when typing it out. All the same its nice to get some clarification and good to speak to you again Chris!

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No probs, it works both ways, and clarifies what I am thinking too!

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Hi Joanne

I usually set up a Accrued Income code as a sub code to prepayments. I also rename an unused sales code to "accrued income" and then to a T9 journal for the net figure.

Telephone bill is just a bog standard accrual :) Be sure that the charges aren't actually for June though.. you usually pay contract charges in advance and calls in arrears. If this is case, only accrue for net call charges that relate to May.



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Thank you Michelle
This accrual and prepayments business is blowing my mind - partly because I have 3 year ends on the go and trying not to forget anything and get them all the right way round. My list has spawned lists!

Good call on the contract charges though, so thank you - I spotted it after emailing this query - at £50 it got lost in the overall bill of £2062!!!

I think with all these books and guides about bookkeeping someone could just write one about all the strange and weird things we see in real life - would be a long book, boring to read in the garden but really useful! Except we wouldnt have such forums then and that would be boring!

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Aw you will get there!!! I always start thinking about what I am trying to do with the P&L.. I work out what side my P&L adjustment has to be be on.... and then, the adjustment can only be on the other side for the balance sheet.. :) Accruals has "CC" (double C) for CCreditors!

OK, I dont do this anymore, but I used to! ;0)

Its probably best to just reverse the full opening accrual/prepayment, and post the closing - as opposed to trying to do the adjustment.

Why am I sat at my desk ? :$




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PS.. TWO THOUSAND AND SIXTY TWO??????!!!! For ONE bill????????

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Great tip - I will do that! Loving the 'CC' idea!

Yeah that much, was ONLY £1331 the following month! Even I cant talk that much and thats saying something! Oh and its a man's bill!

Get out in the garden Mrs - thats what I going to do!

Thanks as ever

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I dont think my ridiculous tan can take anymore! LOL!! I could always just get my legs out though.. that would be a shock for the neighbours! :))


Have fun :)

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Haha! Have a great weekend

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