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Hi, I have started working for a contractor. One of the 'subcontractors' gave us his UTR details but I was unable to verify on the website. I called the helpline who told me he was unregistered so we deducted 30% off the labour. However, as I couldn't verify him, how do I post the details of the deduction on our submission? I did look on our HMRC account and he did come up in the list of subcontractors (twice in fact as I'd tried to verify twice before calling the helpline, in case I'd made a mistake), but shows as not verified. I still able to tick the box to fill out the details. All other subcontractors we use have been verified and filling out the submissions is very easy. Hope someone can help. TIA.

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Did you try to verify him on his own? If you verified say 2 others on the same call, just not him - you use the one verification number for all of them but put 30% as his deduction. If you only tried to verify him you should be able to add him without a verification number, as the lack of registration seems to be a common issue with HMRC. What software are you using?

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The returns are done on the government gateway. And we were trying to verify just him at the time.

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Sounds like you will only know once you are ready to send the return so I would send it as soon as you can after 5th, then you have a few days to sort it if the site wont let you do anything without a verification number.

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When you go into the sub contracotors list on CIS online you click on the name of the unverfied sub contractor. The 8th box down is Tax Treatment (if known). Change the status to Higher Rate on the drop down menu and click Next

When you process the monthly return they will show up in your subcontractors list. When you phoned HMRC they should have given you a verification number even if the subby isn;t registered which you can also enter manually.


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I did call them but they didn't give a verification number, they just said he wasn't registered and I needed to tell him to register. In fact, as per, they weren't particularly helpful.
I have looked on the list of subcontractors on the Government Gateway return bit and he is showing on the list (twice, because we tried to do it twice) so hopefully they will let me tick the box for him.

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