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My client is Vat registered and has just designed a product for a client who is in Dublin. Can anyone give me some guidance on how the Vat is treated please?

Georgie

 



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Hi Georgie
Depends on whether or not the customer in Dublin is VAT registered or not and what the 'product' is (eg digital, physical goods). If its goods - then start with this guidance www.gov.uk/guidance/vat-exports-dispatches-and-supplying-goods-abroad

If the Dublin customer is VAT registered, get their VAT number and make sure you verify it - use this ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/vies/vieshome.do

Ensure they keep proof of good leaving UK for Dublin as this can be picked up in an inspection.

 

Edited to remove reference to possibly being 'Moss' to save any confusion

 



-- Edited by Cheshire on Tuesday 29th of September 2015 03:47:30 PM

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Hi Georgie

I would debate if this is "electronic services" as there is clearly a human element to the service you are providing. If your client is VAT registered, he gives you his VAT number and you don't charge VAT, and report the sale on your EC sales list.

Are you using sage?


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Thought I would stick in the Moss bit for anyone else looking at the 'export' to EU angle.

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-- Edited by Cheshire on Tuesday 29th of September 2015 03:47:55 PM

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The MOSS scheme is only for the supply of electronic services to consumers. As I understand it, all other EU countries have a VAT number from birth, regardless of whether they need to account for VAT (they have thresholds too) - but I may be misinformed on that!

Either way, I don't think this meets the definition of e-services (much like when we send PDF accounts, we have done physical work, so its not all electronic). So while the design may have been presented in electronic form, its the result of a human service, and therefore wouldn't be MOSS.

However, I think I misread the post, thinking the end client was VAT registered, so I will add that if the customer is not VAT registered, UK VAT would apply.

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No I'm not using Sage for this client I use VT, will this be a problem?

Georgie

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Hi Georgie

I could've told you what Sage tax code to use.. I am sure someone who uses VT will be able to tell you.

Hi Jo.. no need to remove the MOSS bit... it gave us reason to discuss further, covering all angles and giving clarification :)

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