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Hi all

Year end for first year Limited company was 31 July 2015, but date pulled back to shorten first year, to 31 March 2015.  CT payment deadline is today (Ok strictly speaking tomorrow) - has been paid.  When is deadline for CT600 - would I be correct in saying there is another 3 months to send to HMRC?

 



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Hi Joanne,

you are of course correct. I can see that you have altered your year to tie in with the tax year.

As you have set your accounting period to the 31st of March. just to confirm your dates they would be :

CT600 - 12 months after the end of the accounting period (so before 1st of April) - Filed with full accounts and tax calculation.
Tax Payment - 9 months and one day (as you say, on or before the 1st of January).
File abreviated accounts with companies house 9 months from end of accounting period (Today)
Companies house annual return remains at 31st of July.

Always seems strange to me that HMRC want their money before you tell them exactly how much you owe them.

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Shaun.

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Thanks Shaun
It was that part about having to pay HMRC before telling them how much I owed that had be worried in case I had read something wrong. Even tried to go online to check but to be honest I was going round in circles as most of the posts are about extending year ends and the split year ends etc, so I knew it was quicker to double check on here. Not helped by me not being able to find my business paperwork as everything is all over the place in the upheaval of changing the office and then the upheaval for a guest over Christmas.

Companies house and payment done so I can forget about it all until 2016 now.

Thanks again.

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Shamus wrote:

Always seems strange to me that HMRC want their money before you tell them exactly how much you owe them.


And, if you come to it late and are still waiting on an HMRC activation code at the date the payment is due, it is impossible to find out the correct reference to use to make the payment!

You have the 10 digit UTR, you know the remaining 7 digits of the 17 digit payment reference are A001XXA, but you can't find out what XX is without being able to log in to your CT account!

If you provide any XX of your choosing, HMRC's (old) code checker seems to pass the code as valid.  Does anyone know if it is worth paying against 01 and sorting it out later if 01 turns out to be the wrong XX for the first year?  

Happy New Year to all.

 



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Happy New Year Ian
HMRC do normally send a letter with a payment slip on it usually months before the Corproartion Tax is due and this has the reference number on it, but I assume you don't have access to this. My understanding is the magic xx relates to your accounting period, so for the first year 01 would be appropriate. The only option open to you to get it the today would be via Faster payments, so probably worth a punt. I've never had to pay it without having access to the number but have seen the 01 code used a few times for one year old companies companies. Do you have two CT600s for the first year as separate payments will be needed, although I would need to have dig round a clients Bank payments references to see what the different numbers used were. HMRC at their best....making things easy for tax payers.....not!!

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Actually Ian, Ive just looked at mine and it was an '02' that was used - yet its my first year as a Limited co.

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Joanne,

Yes, you're right, I don't ever remember seeing a CT603 which would have given me the required XX.

One company I deal with had an XX of 04 for its first tax year (2013-14).

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