The Book-keepers Forum (BKF)

Post Info TOPIC: CIS Self Employed
KAZ


Veteran Member

Status: Offline
Posts: 70
Date:
CIS Self Employed
Permalink Closed


I have a client who is self employed in the construction industry.  He has worked with only one company for the last 14 months. Does this mean that technically he has employment status?



__________________


Expert

Status: Offline
Posts: 1963
Date:
Permalink Closed

Hi Karen,
From a technical viewpoint it may well be that HMRC considers him employed, however from a practical view it really doesn't matter at this point to your client. Should HMRC deem him an employee, they will potentially chase his contractor for unpaid tax and NI on the 'net wages' they have paid your client. The responsibility is with the contractor for doing all the correct tests.

__________________
Rob
www.accounts-solutions.com


Master Book-keeper

Status: Offline
Posts: 3904
Date:
Permalink Closed

Hi Rob

Does this work the same way in CIS?  The contractor is deducting 20% anyway so I'm assuming that is amply covering the tax obligations.



__________________

John 

 

 

 Any advice given is for general guidance and professional advice should be sought applicable to your circumstances.



Expert

Status: Offline
Posts: 1963
Date:
Permalink Closed

Yes John, up to the contractor to ensure the subbed is self employed. I'm pretty sure most would fail the test should HMRC do a purge though!

__________________
Rob
www.accounts-solutions.com


Master Book-keeper

Status: Offline
Posts: 3904
Date:
Permalink Closed

HI Rob

I agree with you it's down to the contractor. What I meant was, would HMRC be too fussed?  CIS works pretty well as it is imo.



__________________

John 

 

 

 Any advice given is for general guidance and professional advice should be sought applicable to your circumstances.



Expert

Status: Offline
Posts: 1963
Date:
Permalink Closed

Sorry John, misunderstood you. It would take a brave person to say HMRC wouldn't be too fussed, the CIS, SC60 thing has been a hot potato for about 20 years. It seems to be continually getting revamped with more warnings that it is going to be enforced more stringently. In practice have I seen a clampdown, well not for the subbie I haven't. I guess if HMRC had more trained employees they could spend time on this.

__________________
Rob
www.accounts-solutions.com


Master Book-keeper

Status: Offline
Posts: 3904
Date:
Permalink Closed

Thinking about it, it would be better for the subby to be PAYE, as he would pay less tax, but I know the subbies that I do cant wait until April!  They're the only ones keen for me to submit their SA biggrin



__________________

John 

 

 

 Any advice given is for general guidance and professional advice should be sought applicable to your circumstances.

Page 1 of 1  sorted by
 
Quick Reply

Please log in to post quick replies.

Tweet this page Post to Digg Post to Del.icio.us
Members Login
Username 
 
Password 
    Remember Me  
©2007-2024 The Book-keepers Forum (BKF). All Rights Reserved. The Book-keepers Forum (BKF) is a trading division of Bookcert Ltd. Registered in England Company Number 05782923. 2 Laurel House, 1 Station Rd, Worle, Weston-super-Mare, North Somerset, BS22 6AR, United Kingdom. The Book-keepers Forum and BKF are trademarks of Bookcert Ltd. This forum is a discussion forum only. There will usually be more than one opinion to any question and any posting should not be viewed as a definitive solution. No responsibility for loss occasioned to any person acting or refraining from action as a result of any posting on this site is accepted by the contributors or The Book-keepers Forum. In all cases, appropriate professional advice should be sought before making a decision. We reserve the right to remove any postings which are offensive, libellous, self-promoting or engaged in covert marketing. We will not notify users of removals. The views expressed in the forum posts are those of the individual and do not necessary reflect or agree with those of The Book-keepers Forum. Any offensive or unsuitable posts will be removed by the moderators. Any reader of this forum can request for a post to be looked into by sending an email to: bookcertltd@gmail.com.

Privacy & Cookie Policy  About