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Georgie


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Morning all,

I feel a daft question coming on..... If  a client  takes on a subbie and they say they are not CIS how would you know ? If you  are not operating a PAYE scheme you can't verify them can you?

 

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Hi Georgie

no such thing as a daft question especially when it comes to CIS.

Depends why they are saying they are not CIS. Is it because the work they do doesn't fall within in CIS? Client had this with a blind installation company. If the work does fall in CIS you verify them, they won't be found and you deduct at 30%. They do have to have a PAYE ref to operate CIS.

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Hi Alison

Thank you for responding so quickly.

My client works for a large D.I.y chain fitting bathrooms for their customers and they deduct 20% from him. He is doing very well and also has his own private work. He has taken on a subbie himself to help him , so should this guy be CIS?

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If he is sub contracting part of the sub contract then yes. But careful if he is just 'helping' with the overall contract as this implies employment, so he would need to process through PAYE.

I suspect the former though as this is very common in this industry.

You can verify subbies in a number of ways, including over the phone. www.gov.uk/what-you-must-do-as-a-cis-contractor/verify-subcontractors

HMRC do a very useful guide to CIS, covers about 90% of scenarios. Handy one to keep. www.gov.uk/government/publications/construction-industry-scheme-cis-340

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Blimey, what a minefield...Thanks Joanne I'll take a look

Georgie

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CIS helpdesk have had mixed reviews but Ive always found them really helpful! Makes a change for HMRC.

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Agree with Joanne. CIS helpline is usually pretty helpful.  



-- Edited by Meadowlands on Monday 2nd of May 2016 03:39:18 PM

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Another vote for the CIS helpline, always been helpful to me.

 



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Ok thanks , I will give them a ring

Georgie

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