Just thought I would share the fact that every month for the last 4months I have been getting a tax newsletter. The covering letter makes me an offer - for paying £xxx per year I can get this newsletter for 12 months. Wonder how long they will keep making me the offer - do you reckon I might get the full 12months worth?!!!! Even if I dont its not worth £xxx!
Although the best are the ones from Accountants offering to be my accountant! Good to see they do their research before cutting down a few more trees!
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lol, I get those one's from other accountants all the time Joanne.
Even when you write back to them at their contact email it still doesn't deter them.
Seems very down market to try and get business that way in that they will in many cases be writing to someone elses clients promising to undercut their current accountant or perhaps do a better job neither knowing what they are spending on fee's or how good a job the incumbant is doing.
Its actually very unethical and real accountants would find themselves in a lot of trouble with their professional body for adopting a cold calling approach. Unfortunately, not all bodies out there enforce the same rules.
The tax newsletter does run out. I think that I bagged 12 copies before they gave up on the initial campaign but you will continue to get the odd one or two to remind you that they are still there followed by phone calls trying to get you to sign up for a subscription.
There is of course the obligatory every software company under the sun trying to convince you that there product wil somehow make yourt life better.
Plus others that I tend to get a lot of are insolvency practitioners plying their wares.
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lol, I get those one's from other accountants all the time Joanne.
Even when you write back to them at their contact email it still doesn't deter them.
Seems very down market to try and get business that way in that they will in many cases be writing to someone elses clients promising to undercut their current accountant or perhaps do a better job neither knowing what they are spending on fee's or how good a job the incumbant is doing.
Its actually very unethical and real accountants would find themselves in a lot of trouble with their professional body for adopting a cold calling approach. Unfortunately, not all bodies out there enforce the same rules.
The tax newsletter does run out. I think that I bagged 12 copies before they gave up on the initial campaign but you will continue to get the odd one or two to remind you that they are still there followed by phone calls trying to get you to sign up for a subscription.
There is of course the obligatory every software company under the sun trying to convince you that there product wil somehow make yourt life better.
Plus others that I tend to get a lot of are insolvency practitioners plying their wares.
Just saved myself almost £200 then! Oh wait, no - I wasnt going to fall for it was I?!!
I clearly managed to keep my business under the radar for quite a while, but they are now finding me.
Guess I shouldnt do what I once did with Virgin and am honestly thinking of doing again as their letters arrive every 2-3 days (although it did stop them for about 2 years the first time!) - I stuffed all my unwanted post in their envelope and put return to sender on the front, with a little note inside saying - if you are going to send me your unwanted mail, then Im going to send you mine!
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Lol, yes Matt And that was the offer price, isn't it normally £257?!!
Aww I thought it was just me to had the "special offer".
I did have a read through the 2 page newsletter but didn't think it was worth £14.75! You could have a field day on Amazon with £177 to spend on tax and accounting books!
Lol, yes Matt And that was the offer price, isn't it normally £257?!!
Aww I thought it was just me to had the "special offer".
I did have a read through the 2 page newsletter but didn't think it was worth £14.75! You could have a field day on Amazon with £177 to spend on tax and accounting books!
Its very weak on content for that price. Just fills up the re-cyclyed paper bin! Yes Amazon is a better way to spend that amount of cash
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Ohh that's something we can see as an junk in every mail, means this is something that is not going to stop after using it. I guess you understands what I meant to say.
I've removed the Links from your signature and rephrased it post links.
Unfortunately in this instance I do not understand what you are trying to say in your reply.
please could you introduce yourself to the site including which professional body you are with so that we know how to gear any answers to questions that you may have.
To prevent Spam and SEO we only allow limited advertising by members who are long term active contributors to the site (actually answering questions, not simply agreeing with others or based on a number of posts made). Also when advertising is permitted by contributors we do not permit blind links.
Also worth noting that this is a predominantly UK based site.
kind regards,
Shaun.
p.s. I like your avatar.
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Hi Shaun
That was funny as I was I first saw the other post by this same poster I thought she knew Silly Digits and that her name is Cherish! After all these years, we got to the bottom of Silly's name! But noooo, then I realised I think she meant me, but it was just a mis-spelling situation. Then I saw this post. How funny also for a Quick books hosting provider has the words 'sage' in their name - wonder if Sage know.
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jessica wrote:Use of the word Sage is actually meant for sanity and intelligence.
Mmm, that you're a quickbooks shop makes using the word Sage in your name is a little like a Mercedes dealership calling itself BMW.
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Don't forget that 'sage' is a perfectly ordinary word, which is the context Jessica is using it. For the car analogy, therefore, it makes more sense the other way around - and then only in a couple of contexts.
BMW, IIRC, is a set of initials that refer to where the cars were first made, whereas the Mercedes car was named after the designer's daughter - but it's also a place name. So the comparison would be someone selling BMWs under the name Mercedes, which you might be tempted to try if your name was Mercedes, or if you were located in one of the places with that name.
Either way, though, using the word sage in the name does seem a bit of an odd choice in this field, given that there is a very well known company/software package with that name. It might be seen as a deliberate ploy.
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Use of the word Sage is actually meant for sanity and intelligence.
I'm pretty sure the word sage (not capitalised) doesn't actually mean 'sanity'. In fact Im pretty sure it doesnt mean intelligent. Wise yes, but the two are not mutually exclusive.
-- Edited by Cheshire on Thursday 4th of August 2016 08:02:47 PM
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Actual definition of a sage (rather than sage as in a product or plant) is to refer to one who is profoundly wise (Oxford English dictionary definition).
Wisdom has nothing to do with either Sanity or intelligence and is more rooted in common sense.
The use of the word Sage in the name of an accounting business either refers to some link to Sage the software company or attempts to instill in the minds of those viewing the name of the business some link to the accounting software.
One cannot use the word Sage in such a business name and expect to safely argue that such is merely a name rather than guerilla SEO.
Even across the pond isn't Sage (under the name Sage. not Peachtree anymore) now a major player in accounting software so its not as though anyone in this business could claim ignorance of the coincidence in the name.
p.s. Vince, to my mind it doesn't matter what their roots are. You wouldn't expect to go to buy a car by one manufacturer in something that looks by its branding to be a main dealership of one of its competitors. similarly you would not expect a quickbooks shop to have Sage in its name.
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I know what you were getting at Shaun - I just had my pedant hat on because the word sage is a legit, ordinary word, whereas neither BMW or Mercedes are; the latter is closer to an ordinary word than the former, though, which is why I suggested the reversal. I was also trying to come up with a better alternative, where the car maker name *is or began as* an ordinary word (not a proper noun to start with) and would therefore be a better example but I went blank on cars.
Now, if only I had some powerful method on hand to look up such things, like an amazing web address where you could type stuff in and it would search its own index of the entire web... that would have helped. ;)
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Now, if only I had some powerful method on hand to look up such things, like an amazing web address where you could type stuff in and it would search its own index of the entire web... that would have helped. ;)
Ooh, ooh, I know this. Google, try typing Google
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