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Hi, its been a while since I have posted accruals in Sage, please can you guide me in the right direction?

I have insurance £426 and vehicle lease £3035.90 on creditors accounts to be posted for 2016-17

 

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Sam



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Hi Sam
What type of sage (instant, one, 50 std, 50 pro, 50 other one - forgotten its name - etc) and what version (year)?

With some sage you can pre-set accruals and reversal of accruals. Sometimes you can just key the accrual and then reverse via keying the invoice to the accrual nominal once you get it.

Easiest way sometimes is just to do a journal between your expenses account (debit) and accrual (credit) and then reverse it in the new period.

Also for ease - maybe expand the accrual nominal to add say 1, 2, 3 etc - so it reads 21091 for say the insurance and 21092 for the lease.

HTH

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Hi Jo, is it ok to call you Jo?

It's Sage 50 and it does have the facility for the pre-setting. What I don't get is the creditors control account, think I am being a bit dim lols.

Will just do the journal and reverse in new period. Thanks

Sam

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Hi Sam
Jo or Joanne is fine.

Accruals and prepayments don't affect the creditors or debtors control account. It's all about matching the cost or income in the accounts period to which that cost/income relates.

So for example for your insurance bill, if the total £426 represents the full year and is paid in the say 6th month of the financial year then 6 months relates to the current financial period and the other 6 months is prepaid.

So for prepayments you need to reduce the expense cost by the amount paid in advance ie £213 in this case. So credit the insurance expenses and debit prepayments.

Accruals are the opposite. Eg you didn't get the invoice until after the year end, usually eg lucky bill.

Then you would need to increase the cost by the element relating to the financial year you are working on. So in this case debit the cost expenses account and credit accruals.

Reverse the accrual/prepayment in the new period.

Sometimes a good idea to keep a spreadsheet if you need to do them monthly until you are more comfortable with processing them.

Probably easiest to process as a manual journal until you are more used to them too.

HTH, but ask away if you need anything else

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Thanks Jo

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