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This one is driving me insane. An intra-group transfer of trading stock. s166/s167 don't apply(I believe), company continues to trade. What is the value of transfer? Initial acquisition or MV? Only find case law on transfer of Capital Asset in A to trading stock in B. New Angel Court ltd. Grrr. Thanks

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Yoh Johnny!

Where have you been????

Can I suggest you drop this one on AWeb? On a Monday when even the scary ones are being helpful, as opposed to a weekend when they are all asleep or a Friday when they are drunk in a corner and looking for easy pickings! (It is such a giggle!) lol

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Hey, how are you? I've just been busy. Yeah I'll post there tomorrow if I can't figure tonight. Thanks

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All good here Johnny, keeping busy and (mostly) out of trouble. Yer right on the latter! Great to hear you have been busy, in a way, but dont be a stranger, we miss you! Did you sort it? Was half expecting to see you lurking on AWeb!

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Hey, :)

Yes, well no, well sort of!

I fancied a challenging question, so I spent all weekend trying to figure it!

After reading CTA 2009/2010, until my eyes started bleeding! I figured that MV could only be used. If the asset was stock in A and transferred to B as a capital asset there is more leeway - hence the Angel Court Ltd case law.

Then there is the CTA 09 s166/s167 election, but A would need to be ceasing.

There was then the Sharkey v Wernher case, ruling out transferring stock to capital in A, to transfer over to B on a no loss, no gain basis TCGA s171 <(If IIRC) Not being a 'normal trading transaction'

There is also, dependent upon the size of the company the potential for domestic transfer pricing to come into play. 

Ultimately I was looking at shifting it at the purchase price.


Pondered the Companies Act - s582 Shares allotted by a company, and any premium on them, may be paid up in money or money's worth - that sounded interested.


Which left, in my opinion, a share for share exchange - which is a hot potato in the eye's of HMRC. But I think a share for share would be the only way. One of those I expect you'd need clearance, in writing, from HMRC.


 

It was an interesting weekend :) 



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