I have a client who had been employed twice during 2017/2018 by two separate businesses on PAYE, he also has self-employment income after inputting all these details into the tax return I have got the following message
"To ensure the correct Class 4 NIC liability is calculated, enter any Class 1 contributions from employment income"
I do not have the Class 1 figures, all I have is the amount of tax that was deducted through PAYE
Just wondered if anybody else has had this before and how to gain this information
Cheers
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Doug
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Hi Doug Probably a daft Q but where did you get the tax deducted figure from?
I would use their P60 - shows both tax and NI. (Plus P45 if appropriate/left one)
Hi Joanne
Not daft at all, this is the same client as I mentioned in a previous post.
No P60 issued as already left the employments, first place of employment no P45 issued and the second place issued a P45 but with no pay details on it so accessed his Personal Tax account which showed neither of the employments.
In the end phoned HMRC who sent out a letter to the client containing both employments and the tax deductions but no NI it is these figures that I have input into Taxfiler
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Doug
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Hi Doug
Oh gawd, Ive slept and drunk loads since then so cant remember!!
Would I be correct in thinking this chap has no payslips as well?
At least HMRC have something on file. I think I would be tempted to do the following:-
1) Go back to ex employers and demand copies of payslips or failing those being available, copies of the RTI submissions containing just his data, so he can see the gross, tax, ni, any and all other deductions and net.
AND
2) approach HMRC asking for the RTI submission information to include NI and reporting said employer for not supplying the paperwork
You cannot go to the NI team as they will not have the information yet (soooooo far behind with their updates from HMRC!)
Failing that and penultimate resort I guess, contact taxfiler to see if you can override their system. Last resort - paper based S/A with note in white space?
At least you have time (Im assuming its not a late one!)
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Joanne
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No not late, got the payslips from the second company but not the first, they must have had the same problem as me as they had to contact HMRC themselves for the previous details before paying him.
Don't think there is much hope of getting the payslips from the first company but will ask him to try, been back on Taxfiler and it has let me ignore the warning and continue I just didn't want the return and tax calculations I send him to turn out wrong.
I might have a quick go at the HMRC software to see if it comes back with the same calculations or if any warnings flag up.
Thanks for the help
What's with the new avatar ??
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Doug
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Hi Doug
Was a little gift from a pal. I was thinking you need happy pills to answer some of the posters on here these days so thought I would pop the pic on, although it didnt come out so well. Its full of sweets (aka happy pills!). I did also get a bottle of happy juice so might post that next!
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