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Hi

My understanding of HMRC rates for mileage using own car for business use is as follows:

1) The 45p per mile rate is the MAXIMUM payable by an employer (unless you want to incur BIK). 

2) An employer can well pay less than this, if agreed with the employee - without downward limit.

 

Is this correct ?

Assuming I am correct, does anyone have a link to anything I can use for reference ?

 

Thanks!

 



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So hows about an intro before we start. We always ask newbies!

Usual stuff - what prof body do you belong to, do you work for yourself or in a practice/ firm, are you a bookkeeper or accountant, what qualifications, how long in role, where up to in your studies-what exams passed/with what body/in midst of doing, where based, what you did before this role? That sort of thing. Helps get to know you but also how best to pitch answers.

Pease add your first name so that it appears under the signature bar on your posts? Saves everyone looking it up each time!! (Edit profile --->signatures)

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You should check out answers with reference to the legal position



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Hi Joanne

I do apologise - please forgive the omissions!

I am a QBE, working for a private sector company. Worked in and around Finance for 20 years, doing various roles, currently look after various business functions not just finance.

I'm not looking for definitive 'formally relied upon' answers, just a sounding board for potential grey areas, to act as a point of reference on things as/when they come up.

(I recently looked at posts about depreciation of IT Hardware for instance)

Thanks

Peter

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Hi Peter
Welcome to the madhouse.

Be careful what you rely on here - quite a lot is now out of date, so I wouldnt go back more than 12 months for anything tax related. Indeed probably not for Accountancy related either given the IAS/IFRS changes etc.

I always say that if you want tax information then you should look at the specific law, but in this instance Im going to start you off with HMRC manuals. Just note - HMRC give 'guidance', they are quite often wrong as they interpret the law to suit their needs, rather than accurately.

But its a start. Note the employee position if you pay them less than AMAPS. www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/employment-income-manual/eim31330
www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/employment-income-manual/eim31240

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You should check out answers with reference to the legal position



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Hi Peter, welcome to the forum.

 



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Welcome to the forum Peter



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Thank you all.

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OK so have I got this right?

1) Company re-imburses at whatever rate it and the employee agree.

2) EE then claims tax relief at the rate of the difference between this rate and the AMAPS.

Doesn't make sense to me from the HMRC point of view - I must be missing something......

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ah, I think I have thought through my own answer - of course the tax relief is only at the difference x the individuals tax rate and therefore a fraction of gross difference.

Therefore Tax Man is giving a token, but the employee is ultimately worse off?

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