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I'm driving myself round the bend and I'm sure it's actually straightforward but I just can't figure it out.

 

I charge clients using GoCardless: they collect the money on my behalf and take a transaction fee.

I invoice a client so I have the invoice on their customer account on VT for eg £50.

I have a bank transaction from Gocardless for eg £48.80 (the fee gets taken prior to me receiving the money).

 

Am I better putting Go Cardless in as a supplier and reconciling the £48.80 bank? In which case I've nothing to match up to the client invoice.

Or reconcile the bank to the client account and journal the £1.20 to charges?

 

TIA

 

 

EDIT: I have it currently as the bank transaction reconciled against the client account and journalled the charges. Which, I'm thinking is correct.



-- Edited by EmmaAlt on Monday 18th of October 2021 01:03:41 PM

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Hello Emma,

You have made a sale for £50 and that should be recognised in the accounts as a sale for £50.

You have a transaction charge of £1.20 which is the equivalent of a bank service charge.

The service charge does not relate to the item being sold. It is a finance charge that was not necessarily incurred in the sale. i.e. you could have sold the item fo cash and received £50.

Your confusion is happening because the transaction is offset before you get your money but the reality of the transaction is that two transactions have taken place. One a sale for £50 and one an expense for £1.20. To state it any other way is understating turnover.

From VT's perspective there would be a three way reconcilliation between the sale, the expense and the bank

hope that makes sene,

Shaun.

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Ah thank you, so I've edited the bank transaction to show:

Debit Bank: £48.80
Debit Expense: £1.20
Credit Customer: £50.00 (and reconciled against their invoice)

The thing that was confusing me was when I did the initial upload from the bank I can only code to one account.




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Hi Emma

You've just reminded me I now have a few of these to do when I do my client's 21/22 accounts.  They are daily sales in a cafe so the treatment will be different. (sumup rather than go cardless)

Personally I would have left the bank transaction as it is - coded to customer, and done a journal CR customer DR bank charges.*  It has the same affect though so your way works. 

 

*Just seen your EDIT and that's the way you had it first.



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Go Cardless is a 'bank' account. As is Barclaycard/Sum up/Stripe/ Worldpay/other card providers. Set up as such in bookkeeping software. Upload and process customer invoices from the GoCradless bank if they are paid by card. Process charges to GO Cardless bank, care re VAT on charges now (see invoices). Entry on your Bank is actually the transfer from GoC to main bank that you see on the Bank statement, which happens a few days after the customer has actually paid, so more accurate way of recording. Reconcile both.

Not for cafe. You miss out the customer invoice element obvs

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Thank you for the further answers. Setting up the GoCardless bank account sounds like a good plan. At the moment I am just going to be doing simplified Self-Assessments with my business but good to have everything in place correctly should I get bigger down the line.

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